What's with the mod hate?

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:43

נכתב על ידי Khal.eesi, 19.08.2015 at 13:28

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:18

נכתב על ידי Eagle, 19.08.2015 at 12:21

As far as most of us are concerned, Lao was probably the best pick in a while to become a mod

1) >Implying Desu is not competitive.

Yeah sure Desu is competitive, but u have to admit a little bit less active


Now after you'be say w/e you wanted to, let me evaluate Laochra on my own criterias:

1) From a timezone needed = NO.
2) Active = YES
3) Have knowledge about the game mechanics = YES.
4) Mature = YES
5) Professional = NO. - Definitely yes. If u could see how much he has actually changed and willing to help since he became a mod u would be surprised. Since he became a mod I personally asked him to help me with over dozen stuff, any kind of help actually, he was there each and every time. Yes blitz needed a nerf, u are still crying about that?
6) Fair = NO. - if he aint fair to you then ok
7) Helpful = NO - said everything before
8) Willingness to solve problems = NO. - if he isnt solving them in your favor and then u say no, than ok

I'll provide you explanation and proof of any one of those eights if you need.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:43

1) >Implying Desu is not competitive.

Nice strawman. I never mentioned the other mods. Desu is cool and competitive, yet irelevant

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:43

2) How is being competitive something to be taken into account in the election of a mod? What does it influences? How does it even matter? Just so you know there are a lot of good mods that aren't competitive.

How is it not? Competitive part of atwar is probably the most importand and mods who are competitive players themselves have a certain value added to their credentials, as they have reached a high skill level and knowledge of the game they are about to moderate. By the way nice second strawman.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:43

3) >Active in his mod duties < Sure. Own Laochra recognize he's not active enough. If you pay me I would get the thread/proof for you, implying that he haven't deleted it.

You judge and evaluate someone or something by comparison. Compared to all the other mods currently "employed", is Laochra really inactive?

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:43

4) "one of the most skilled and knowledgeable all around players ever, extremely active, who has researched deeply into the games mechanics, more than most"


Bias detected.... Do you even want me to prove you wrong? Please show us anything but the TB guide

I would like for you to prove me wrong yes. Since you wont take my personal experience as credible evidence, you can find them yourself, by collecting data about Laochras competitive career ( cws/ duels/ games) and his forum contribution about game tactics and mechanics. These should be enough.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:43

5) "And you got Lao, and at the same time is cute, friendly, helpfull, smart, talkative, funny, is an Illyrian and a ginger!!! "

Where's the maturity in that? Or even more important, fairness?

Maturity was actually implied. Do not confuse a sense of humour and the occasional pranking with actual maturity and lack of. As for fairness i can only judge by what i have seen and my experience and i find him extremely sensible, reasonable and just. If you have an other opinion the burden of proof lies to you. As of yet you havent convinced me.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:43

Now after you'be say w/e you wanted to, let me evaluate Laochra on my own criterias:


5) Professional = NO.
6) Fair = NO.
7) Helpful = NO
8) Willingness to solve problems = NO.

1 is irrelevant, 5 doesnt exist, 6 not enough proof, 7 and 8 first time i hear it. I would say he can be stubborn, that much i know.

Well if you add up the numbers, i guess its looking good for him.

Clovis is there any thread you won't turn into an opportunity to bash on Laochra? I mean seriously it's getting out of hand. We get it you don't like him and he doesn't like you. Please stop involving the whole game in your petty personal relationship.

נכתב על ידי Acquiesce, 19.08.2015 at 14:50

Clovis is there any thread you won't turn into an opportunity to bash on Laochra? I mean seriously it's getting out of hand. We get it you don't like him and he doesn't like you. Please stop involving the whole game in your petty personal relationship.

DEAL WITH IT

נכתב על ידי theFuehrer, 19.08.2015 at 14:55

DEAL WITH IT

Such strong logics, I guess I will have to acquiesce to your demands.

Atwar feels like communist Poland now. The guy that harass and oppress you become mod and now he have more power.

Madara ruined 3 clans (A-Team, Band of Brothers, Brothers in Arms) where many players put time and effort to build them. He made many of them give up on atwar(A R, Cherse, Light Soul/Killer, TruthWarrior, UndyingWill much more) and made Andartes leave the game.

He damaged the game and gets promoted to mod, good decision.

נכתב על ידי Acquiesce, 19.08.2015 at 14:58

Such strong logics, I guess I will have to acquiesce to your demands.

Yes... good Acqui... welcome to the Dark Side.

נכתב על ידי Skanderbeg, 19.08.2015 at 15:04

Atwar feels like communist Poland now. The guy that harass and oppress you become mod and now he have more power.

Madara ruined 3 clans (A-Team, Band of Brothers, Brothers in Arms) where many players put time and effort to build them. He made many of them give up on atwar(A R, Cherse, Light Soul/Killer, TruthWarrior, UndyingWill much more) and made Andartes leave the game.

He damaged the game and gets promoted to mod, good decision.

נכתב על ידי theFuehrer, 19.08.2015 at 14:55

DEAL WITH IT

נכתב על ידי Skanderbeg, 19.08.2015 at 15:04

and made Andartes leave the game.

arent you Andartes?

also get Spart in here!

נכתב על ידי Khal.eesi, 19.08.2015 at 15:40

נכתב על ידי Skanderbeg, 19.08.2015 at 15:04

and made Andartes leave the game.

arent you Andartes?

also get Spart in here!

lol it is andartes, wat a nub hater wow

נכתב על ידי Acquiesce, 19.08.2015 at 14:50

Clovis is there any thread you won't turn into an opportunity to bash on Laochra? I mean seriously it's getting out of hand. We get it you don't like him and he doesn't like you. Please stop involving the whole game in your petty personal relationship.

had to use this gif

נכתב על ידי e Mare, 19.08.2015 at 02:52

נכתב על ידי Goblin, 18.08.2015 at 16:45

e Mare 22.05.2015 - 18:26 "If you like, I can get your posts removed as you're staying off topic".

That was message to me 3 months ago that he will remove my whatever posts... cant even remember, i think i corrected his bad quoting.
He got pissed privated me several of this kind of bullshit messages... i couldn't believe someone can act this serious over a trivial matter as that fucking shit.

I like mods who can take a joke... like you were acqui, not pricks who wanna act like prison guards.

I'm assuming you think trolling is a good thing. Okay.

Trolling if humorous and taken with light heart is actually a positive thing, of course this is up to the receiving end to determine where the line is. The trouble is in the wording, is it 'trolling' ie the infliction of embarrassment or unreasonable distress or is it light hearted humour? Either was crushing a nut with a bulldozer is never the best way to deal with a situation.

Anyways at OP Acqui is spot on. Many times in this community rope is given only for us to hang ourselves with it.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:18

נכתב על ידי Eagle, 19.08.2015 at 12:21

As far as most of us are concerned, Lao was probably the best pick in a while to become a mod

He's totally the opposite, actually [LINK]. But maybe you can objectively give a reason about why laochra was a right choice for mods.

Because he is 1. Honest 2. Stands up for his opinion 3. Is sensible enough to listen to reason and change opinion if convinced well enough.

I Couldn't give a fuck about his knowledge, competitive competence or understanding of mechanics, simply put he applies logic (sometimes disagreeable) to whatever his argument is, this is what makes a good mod/adjudicator.

now comes a ridiculously long comeback reply.

They deserve it!

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 19.08.2015 at 13:59

im going to set up a non premium donation fund, everytime you say my name in a post you must put 100 protocoins in the fund.

Think of all the free premium people will get! see look how much i do for this community.

ill be waiting

נכתב על ידי b0nker2, 19.08.2015 at 16:46

now comes a ridiculously long comeback reply.

Much serious for me, sorry. Feel free to PM me if you really want to talk about this though.

נכתב על ידי Acquiesce, 19.08.2015 at 14:50

Clovis is there any thread you won't turn into an opportunity to bash on Laochra?

That was not my intention. I was just responding to the OT. Behind say, updating the FAQ is a topic concerning to the whole mod team, and Laochra always had the right to accept / decline it. The fact that he keep evading the question though, rather than addressing it just proves my point of how he ain't trying to solve any problem here. At the very minimal I'd expect a mod to post about it in their forums.

Anyway I've PM khal in private smashing down every single point he had tried to make here. Can't PM eagle due to a bug, but when I get him in-game I'll talk with him about this.

Hopefully we're over here.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 13:43

- bla

Clovis aren't you like one of the last persons who could speak of fairness or proffessionalism? You rather recommended hdrakon or elcreyente as moderators because they are your friends. Laochra did enough to this community even the haters of laochra (not you obviously) could say that.

Like Acq said above, why you take every opportunity to bash on laochra in every thread thats about the mods, yet u make threads yourself why people bash on mods. Ironic.
Like if you or hdrakon or elcreyente will become mods in AW I think this game will die probably, atleast I know I wont be playing a game runned by some dictatorish friendship that tries to turn this game around the way it fits them the best.

You cant say laochra asked all those strat changes for himself because he could still beat the asses of those exploiters. So I really don't get the way you think, but I guess I'd have to have autism to get it.

Anyways keep on going, i'd like to read some funny stuff before heading to work.

P.S. I guess elcrey or hdrakon will start quoting me now because I mentioned them, if you do, dont make it some boring post because its not that fun to read

Waffel for mod pls so joke is real xD

Try to stay on topic, guys.

hdrakon, I already got my answer and was satisfied (and was also hoping it would be locked), but they were continuing to go off-topic, was the reason I said this.
(I never disagreed with Acquiesce, so don't jump to wild conclusions to quickly)

נכתב על ידי 12gsh, 20.08.2015 at 08:50

Try to stay on topic, guys.

It should be locked the answer was given what's the point of continuing this thread, Acquiesce gave you a logical answer is not enough for you?
If you want another answer then here's. Haters gonna hate, doesn't matter if you're good person or not, they don't need a justified reason to dislike you, and especially to complain when the people they hate get power over them.

Locked

(Was waiting for clovis to post a reply; hence didn't lock earlier)

Just to add.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 19.08.2015 at 23:07

נכתב על ידי b0nker2, 19.08.2015 at 16:46

now comes a ridiculously long comeback reply.

Much serious for me, sorry. Feel free to PM me if you really want to talk about this though.

נכתב על ידי Acquiesce, 19.08.2015 at 14:50

Clovis is there any thread you won't turn into an opportunity to bash on Laochra?

That was not my intention. I was just responding to the OT. Behind say, updating the FAQ is a topic concerning to the whole mod team, and Laochra always had the right to accept / decline it. The fact that he keep evading the question though, rather than addressing it just proves my point of how he ain't trying to solve any problem here. At the very minimal I'd expect a mod to post about it in their forums.

Anyway I've PM khal in private smashing down every single point he had tried to make here. Can't PM eagle due to a bug, but when I get him in-game I'll talk with him about this.

Hopefully we're over here.

There are 16 other mods yet you focus on me. You shouldnt be surprised that the volunteer who you spend all your time complaining about and bashing on the forums has no interest in addressing your personal requests. One of the other mods can deal with this, there are other issues in the community which i am attending to with what limited time i have.

Yes "we are over here."