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פורסם על ידי clovis1122, 28.10.2015 - 16:25
Disclaimer: This thread was not made to bash ENIGMA on any way. If anyone from ENIGMA feel that this thread is not appropriated then please PM me or post here, and I'll get the thread edited/censored/deleted accordingly.




Today we were going to play ENIGMA. It was rank 13 13 11 from our side, and rank 10 10 from their side. After waiting for a while they blame us for being slow and say that their member went off, and that nobody else in his clan wanted to cw.

I asked for a 2vs2 CW and I get this answer: "Sure, but match our ranks".

How could this be possible, I though everybody above rank 9 had all the essential upgrades. But there are still clans who regulates higher ranks? If it was rank 6. 7. 8. and even newest rank 9, I would say "sure, we will match". But 13 vs 10? What is this?

I cancelled the CW right there, not because we couldn't match (we had 13 13 11 9 9 8 7 online at that time), but because I consider it a stupid reason to delay a CW.

Someone please explain me how playing without Hybrid Warfare or Lift The Frog puts a rank 10 at disadvantage against a rank 13.
23.12.2015 - 10:21
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Can we just let this thread die already, obviously there are differing opinions which aren't about to change anytime soon so there's no point in reviving this over and over again.
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24.12.2015 - 01:46
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נכתב על ידי Autumn, 22.12.2015 at 23:24

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 21.12.2015 at 12:25

Second,when someone tells that r13 is like r9,he is or idiot or clovis.
Why?
Because r13 has more experience....


Yeah like I just beat this r14, omg how is that possible!?! And I'm rly not the best r9 out there.


Also, don't worry, no matter which clan I'm in, I'll always tell u to stop trolling, cuz u r an epic troll haha

that player is very competetive.....
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24.12.2015 - 16:49
נכתב על ידי Heat Check, 23.12.2015 at 10:21

Can we just let this thread die already, obviously there are differing opinions which aren't about to change anytime soon so there's no point in reviving this over and over again.

but the thing is clovis revived it....funny he upvoted your post
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24.12.2015 - 17:11
נכתב על ידי Kromn, 24.12.2015 at 01:46

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 22.12.2015 at 23:24

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 21.12.2015 at 12:25

Second,when someone tells that r13 is like r9,he is or idiot or clovis.
Why?
Because r13 has more experience....


Yeah like I just beat this r14, omg how is that possible!?! And I'm rly not the best r9 out there.


Also, don't worry, no matter which clan I'm in, I'll always tell u to stop trolling, cuz u r an epic troll haha

that player is very competetive.....


Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.
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24.12.2015 - 18:20
נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.


ok, let me duel a random rank 4 from beginners lobby with strats disabled, and when i beat him can you delete your account?

or better yet, have epic clan recruit ranks 4 from beginners lobby and train them for a week then make them clan war (with strats disable).
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24.12.2015 - 19:48
נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 24.12.2015 at 18:20

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.


ok, let me duel a random rank 4 from beginners lobby with strats disabled, and when i beat him can you delete your account?

or better yet, have epic clan recruit ranks 4 from beginners lobby and train them for a week then make them clan war (with strats disable).

ok duel me
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24.12.2015 - 21:08
נכתב על ידי 1GodofWar1, 24.12.2015 at 16:49

נכתב על ידי Heat Check, 23.12.2015 at 10:21

Can we just let this thread die already, obviously there are differing opinions which aren't about to change anytime soon so there's no point in reviving this over and over again.

but the thing is pavle revived it....funny I upvoted your post (and made this comment).


Corrected for you. Please check your facts before posting.

נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 24.12.2015 at 18:20

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.


ok, let me duel a random rank 4 from beginners lobby with strats disabled, and when i beat him can you delete your account?

or better yet, have epic clan recruit ranks 4 from beginners lobby and train them for a week then make them clan war (with strats disable).


The second one is actually nice and we have absolutely no problem with it. The question is, however, how many high ranks would accept a game without upgrades.
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24.12.2015 - 21:10
Mods feel free to lock this thread. Everybody had say what they wanted to say anyway.
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24.12.2015 - 21:19
You noobs still bitching? Half of yall dont even cw anymore cuz u say html sucks. So stfu already.
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25.12.2015 - 00:27
נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 24.12.2015 at 18:20

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.



or better yet, have epic clan recruit ranks 4 from beginners lobby and train them for a week then make them clan war (with strats disable).


I don't get your point here.
Are you saying that, even tho you registered in 2012, your level of skills could be reached by a random r4 within a week?
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25.12.2015 - 02:52
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נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.

are you trolling or ou are idiotic?how can you compete world player with any 3v3 player?
this is between 3v3 players,that one isnt even competetive player idiot,compete dino and mauzer,if dino had same experience in this game as mauzer has,he would be 10 times better than mauzer is.
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25.12.2015 - 02:53
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נכתב על ידי PleaseMe, 24.12.2015 at 21:19

You noobs still bitching? Half of yall dont even cw anymore cuz u say html sucks. So stfu already.

i cw as much as i can.
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25.12.2015 - 05:15
נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 02:52

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.

are you trolling or ou are idiotic?how can you compete world player with any 3v3 player?

Just for clarification, any regular world competitor would wreck someone who plays pure 3v3s in most areas, so you probably mean a world 50k player or perhaps SP farmer.

I agree though, lock this topic or let it die; this thread has gone for too long and has served it's purpose.
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25.12.2015 - 05:24
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נכתב על ידי The Tactician, 25.12.2015 at 05:15

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 02:52

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.

are you trolling or ou are idiotic?how can you compete world player with any 3v3 player?

Just for clarification, any regular world competitor would wreck someone who plays pure 3v3s in most areas, so you probably mean a world 50k player or perhaps SP farmer.

I agree though, lock this topic or let it die; this thread has gone for too long and has served it's purpose.

lol,you are joking.
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25.12.2015 - 09:13
נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 02:52

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.

are you trolling or ou are idiotic?how can you compete world player with any 3v3 player?
this is between 3v3 players,that one isnt even competetive player idiot,compete dino and mauzer,if dino had same experience in this game as mauzer has,he would be 10 times better than mauzer is.


I beat him in Oceania, first time I played that map.
Anyway, ok I stop trolling you for now,
until you start trolling another thread
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25.12.2015 - 09:26
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נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 09:13

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 02:52

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.

are you trolling or ou are idiotic?how can you compete world player with any 3v3 player?
this is between 3v3 players,that one isnt even competetive player idiot,compete dino and mauzer,if dino had same experience in this game as mauzer has,he would be 10 times better than mauzer is.


I beat him in Oceania, first time I played that map.
Anyway, ok I stop trolling you for now,
until you start trolling another thread

lol,i beated goblin in oceania and it was first time me playing that map xd
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25.12.2015 - 11:16
נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 09:26

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 09:13

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 02:52

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.

are you trolling or ou are idiotic?how can you compete world player with any 3v3 player?
this is between 3v3 players,that one isnt even competetive player idiot,compete dino and mauzer,if dino had same experience in this game as mauzer has,he would be 10 times better than mauzer is.


I beat him in Oceania, first time I played that map.
Anyway, ok I stop trolling you for now,
until you start trolling another thread

lol,i beated goblin in oceania and it was first time me playing that map xd


probably was luck
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נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 11:16

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 09:26

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 09:13

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 02:52

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.

are you trolling or ou are idiotic?how can you compete world player with any 3v3 player?
this is between 3v3 players,that one isnt even competetive player idiot,compete dino and mauzer,if dino had same experience in this game as mauzer has,he would be 10 times better than mauzer is.


I beat him in Oceania, first time I played that map.
Anyway, ok I stop trolling you for now,
until you start trolling another thread

lol,i beated goblin in oceania and it was first time me playing that map xd


probably was luck

i was dominating whole game.
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25.12.2015 - 15:53
נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 15:35

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 11:16

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 09:26

lol,i beated goblin in oceania and it was first time me playing that map xd

probably was luck

i was dominating whole game.


most probably he had bad rolls on t1
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25.12.2015 - 15:59
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נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 15:53

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 15:35

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 11:16

נכתב על ידי Kromn, 25.12.2015 at 09:26

lol,i beated goblin in oceania and it was first time me playing that map xd

probably was luck

i was dominating whole game.


most probably he had bad rolls on t1

na.
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26.12.2015 - 16:34
נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 00:27

נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 24.12.2015 at 18:20

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.



or better yet, have epic clan recruit ranks 4 from beginners lobby and train them for a week then make them clan war (with strats disable).


I don't get your point here.
Are you saying that, even tho you registered in 2012, your level of skills could be reached by a random r4 within a week?


i am saying that ranks are relevant because skill nearly= Experience, Experience = SP, SP = Rank, therefore Rank nearly= Skill. In top of that, the high rank has an upgrade advantage.

So if anybody says that rank doesn't matter then they should put their money where their mouth is and get a high rank to duel a random low rank (with strategies disabled) and lets see who wins.
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26.12.2015 - 17:51
נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 26.12.2015 at 16:34

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 25.12.2015 at 00:27

נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 24.12.2015 at 18:20

נכתב על ידי Autumn, 24.12.2015 at 17:11

Finally! you admit skills counts more than rank. Glad I helped u learn something.



or better yet, have epic clan recruit ranks 4 from beginners lobby and train them for a week then make them clan war (with strats disable).


I don't get your point here.
Are you saying that, even tho you registered in 2012, your level of skills could be reached by a random r4 within a week?


i am saying that ranks are relevant because skill nearly= Experience, Experience = SP, SP = Rank, therefore Rank nearly= Skill. In top of that, the high rank has an upgrade advantage.

So if anybody says that rank doesn't matter then they should put their money where their mouth is and get a high rank to duel a random low rank (with strategies disabled) and lets see who wins.


Like Clovis said in the first post of this thread, which you probably didn't read since you apparently don't know much about logic, in this thread, we are discussing the validity of ranks as a measure of skills between people of ranks 9 and over, ranks in which all important upgrades are unlocked.
If you want to prove that you are better than a rank 4 and discuss this, please make another thread.
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26.12.2015 - 18:19
נכתב על ידי Autumn, 26.12.2015 at 17:51

Like Clovis said in the first post of this thread, which you probably didn't read since you apparently don't know much about logic, in this thread, we are discussing the validity of ranks as a measure of skills between people of ranks 9 and over, ranks in which all important upgrades are unlocked.
If you want to prove that you are better than a rank 4 and discuss this, please make another thread.


I would like to see clovis put 9,9,9 vs Mortalk Kombat's 14,12,11. instead of making stupid topics in which he tries to argue that ranks don't matter just to justify his clan's policy of always putting their highest ranks vs mid-ranks
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26.12.2015 - 18:26
נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 26.12.2015 at 18:19

making stupid topics in which he tries to argue that ranks don't matter just to justify his clan's policy of always putting their highest ranks vs mid-ranks

That isnt even backed up by what the topic is discussing...
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26.12.2015 - 19:26
נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 26.12.2015 at 18:19

I would like to see clovis put 9,9,9 vs Mortalk Kombat's 14,12,11




MK 15,13,11 vs Epic Clan 13,13,9 in all those CWs.

Sure MK is strong and nobody denies that. However if you think we're weaker due to ranks, then you've been proven wrong.

Also no problem for us to put our rank 9 against their top ranks. However since our R9 are mostly scenario players, the CW will have to be on a scenario.
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26.12.2015 - 21:20
Lol this thread

zizous a rank 14 and id be comfortable putting a r7 against him in a cw. Look at the player not their rank, its a very vague and poor indicator of skill after r9/10.

This is what i loved about having invisible in illyria, r9 but a top tier player. The rank obsessed noobs in clans like evol couldn't say anything against having him in a cw. This is also why i started abandoning games like crazy once i hit r9 myself. Unfortunately this community wont change its' ways.
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27.12.2015 - 08:40
נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 26.12.2015 at 19:26

נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 26.12.2015 at 18:19

I would like to see clovis put 9,9,9 vs Mortalk Kombat's 14,12,11




MK 15,13,11 vs Epic Clan 13,13,9 in all those CWs.

Sure MK is strong and nobody denies that. However if you think we're weaker due to ranks, then you've been proven wrong.

Also no problem for us to put our rank 9 against their top ranks. However since our R9 are mostly scenario players, the CW will have to be on a scenario.

Don played those cw's, it's perfectly reasonable for us that we lost them !
shh
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27.12.2015 - 09:47
נכתב על ידי Steve Aoki, 27.12.2015 at 08:40

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 26.12.2015 at 19:26

נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 26.12.2015 at 18:19

I would like to see clovis put 9,9,9 vs Mortalk Kombat's 14,12,11




MK 15,13,11 vs Epic Clan 13,13,9 in all those CWs.

Sure MK is strong and nobody denies that. However if you think we're weaker due to ranks, then you've been proven wrong.

Also no problem for us to put our rank 9 against their top ranks. However since our R9 are mostly scenario players, the CW will have to be on a scenario.

Don played those cw's, it's perfectly reasonable for us that we lost them !
shh

No it's because steve wasn't there
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27.12.2015 - 17:01
נכתב על ידי CollegeDegree, 27.12.2015 at 09:47

נכתב על ידי Steve Aoki, 27.12.2015 at 08:40

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 26.12.2015 at 19:26

נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 26.12.2015 at 18:19

I would like to see clovis put 9,9,9 vs Mortalk Kombat's 14,12,11




MK 15,13,11 vs Epic Clan 13,13,9 in all those CWs.

Sure MK is strong and nobody denies that. However if you think we're weaker due to ranks, then you've been proven wrong.

Also no problem for us to put our rank 9 against their top ranks. However since our R9 are mostly scenario players, the CW will have to be on a scenario.

Don played those cw's, it's perfectly reasonable for us that we lost them !
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No it's because steve wasn't there

Back in Nexus Myself, Anti-Maidan, and Sultan of Swing used to smack MK's high ranks in clan wars. This had nothing to do with ranks though as you could see. It's how well you perform with your team. It's all in the players. I said before leave it to rank 9s like myself sultan dinoscout and heatcheck to smack the higher ranks. Yall complain too much.
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27.12.2015 - 20:41
נכתב על ידי PleaseMe, 27.12.2015 at 17:01

נכתב על ידי CollegeDegree, 27.12.2015 at 09:47

נכתב על ידי Steve Aoki, 27.12.2015 at 08:40

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 26.12.2015 at 19:26

נכתב על ידי Cpt.Magic, 26.12.2015 at 18:19

I would like to see clovis put 9,9,9 vs Mortalk Kombat's 14,12,11




MK 15,13,11 vs Epic Clan 13,13,9 in all those CWs.

Sure MK is strong and nobody denies that. However if you think we're weaker due to ranks, then you've been proven wrong.

Also no problem for us to put our rank 9 against their top ranks. However since our R9 are mostly scenario players, the CW will have to be on a scenario.

Don played those cw's, it's perfectly reasonable for us that we lost them !
shh

No it's because steve wasn't there

Back in Nexus Myself, Anti-Maidan, and Sultan of Swing used to smack MK's high ranks in clan wars. This had nothing to do with ranks though as you could see. It's how well you perform with your team. It's all in the players. I said before leave it to rank 9s like myself sultan dinoscout and heatcheck to smack the higher ranks. Yall complain too much.

tell that to enigma
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