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פורסם על ידי Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

02.09.2016 - 13:34
We also need those fleets to send units to macedon.... There shouldn't be a vote on that, if I had adequate troops they wouldn't be there next turn anyway...
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02.09.2016 - 13:41
נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 02.09.2016 at 13:34

We also need those fleets to send units to macedon.... There shouldn't be a vote on that, if I had adequate troops they wouldn't be there next turn anyway...


Yeah the fleets will just move to each front automatically imo this turn, but in the future Consuls need to take their job a bit more seriously. Just lazily handwaving deployments away can cost the game. If I was super strict I would say because you didn't deploy the fleets to the wars they are still hanging out in italy and rhodes respectively, that means Phoenix can't cross into macedonia and Hannibal will receive his reinforcements from hispania.
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02.09.2016 - 14:00

Assassination Attempt

The next day Gaius Octavius is attacked by a gang of men in the Forum but as soon as the urban cohorts arrive they and their masked leader escape.

Roll: 3
Result: assassination fails but he escapes
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02.09.2016 - 14:27
Consul Vote:
2)Marco Flavius (Aqollo) & Falavious Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Censor Vote:
2)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Praetor Vote:
2)Aurelius Cornelius Scipio Illyricus (Zephyrusu)

Replace Tirpitz?
4)Nay

New Legions:
2)8 Legions

Force Deployments:
1) Send 6 Veterans to fight Macedon, all the other legions to fight the Gauls

Recall Tunder?
1)Aye

Reject maritime alliance?
2)Nay
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02.09.2016 - 14:56
Also, I will use my tribune to nominate myself Governor of Illyricum. Rome isn't safe for me anymore, bye
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02.09.2016 - 15:17
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02.09.2016 - 23:51
==Turn 7: Phase 3 has begun==
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03.09.2016 - 00:35
נכתב על ידי Aetius, 02.09.2016 at 23:51


Have the turns become shorter? I didn't even know when phase 1 ended and phase 2 began My timezone sucks lol
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03.09.2016 - 03:15
Nice using phoenix against macedonians while i get a bonus against them...bla idiots
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03.09.2016 - 03:16
7 for games, 1 to rome
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03.09.2016 - 04:03
נכתב על ידי Tirpitz406, 03.09.2016 at 03:15

Nice using phoenix against macedonians while i get a bonus against them...bla idiots


I have the bonus against them too.

Someties I wonder why I bother writing anything on here, no one seems to be able to read
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03.09.2016 - 04:10
נכתב על ידי Tirpitz406, 03.09.2016 at 03:15

Nice using phoenix against macedonians while i get a bonus against them...bla idiots

For fuck's sake people, the point of the game is not to expand Rome as easily and as soon as possible, but to dominate Rome through politics. Wars are an oppurtunity for commanders to gain popularity, influence and veteran legions.
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03.09.2016 - 04:16
נכתב על ידי Zephyrusu, 03.09.2016 at 04:10

נכתב על ידי Tirpitz406, 03.09.2016 at 03:15

Nice using phoenix against macedonians while i get a bonus against them...bla idiots

For fuck's sake people, the point of the game is not to expand Rome as easily and as soon as possible, but to dominate Rome through politics. Wars are an oppurtunity for commanders to gain popularity, influence and veteran legions.

True. But Rome will survive long enough only by defeating our opponents as fast as we can, as efficiently as we can without taking too many losses, before more wars pop up.
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03.09.2016 - 11:02
Bad news Guys, Mrarmy fucked up hard by committing the bulk of our army against the Gauls and then rolling a 13....a disaster roll... now since he sent me to fight Mace with only 6 veteran legios I'm under equipped and we need a solid roll vs Mace to guarantee we stay alive next turn.

Well done Mrarmy *claps*
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03.09.2016 - 11:11
Dont worry guys I saved us

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03.09.2016 - 11:30
Uhm .... bad dice ? phoenix was supposed to die !!!! I demand a reroll !!!!!
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03.09.2016 - 11:34
נכתב על ידי Valetorious, 03.09.2016 at 11:30

Uhm .... bad dice ? phoenix was supposed to die !!!! I demand a reroll !!!!!


I like how I was sent to "kill Mace" but was sent with the veteran legions to be disposed of.. and to prevent me coming home with another vet legion. Fuck you kids
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03.09.2016 - 11:43
נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:34

נכתב על ידי Valetorious, 03.09.2016 at 11:30

Uhm .... bad dice ? phoenix was supposed to die !!!! I demand a reroll !!!!!


I like how I was sent to "kill Mace" but was sent with the veteran legions to be disposed of.. and to prevent me coming home with another vet legion. Fuck you kids


I was joking dumbass, was making a point about how you always cried about how shitty the dice "program" is and now you're acting like this with an insanely good roll.

Cry when you lose, boast like an ape when you win.
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03.09.2016 - 11:52
נכתב על ידי Valetorious, 03.09.2016 at 11:43


Cry when you lose, boast like an ape when you win.


I wouldnt give a shit if I won or lost if I was sent with the correct number of legions.
Quit being a little bitch.
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03.09.2016 - 11:57
נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:52

I wouldnt give a shit if I won or lost if I was sent with the correct number of legions.
Quit being a little bitch.

6 Veterans is like 12 normal ones, you were not underequipped at all
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03.09.2016 - 12:02
נכתב על ידי Zephyrusu, 03.09.2016 at 11:57

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:52

I wouldnt give a shit if I won or lost if I was sent with the correct number of legions.
Quit being a little bitch.

6 Veterans is like 12 normal ones, you were not underequipped at all


When Mrarmy is rolling +6 as field consul and has 17 legions himself... which can be lost to a disaster roll... Like I fucking predicted.... Yes... I am under equipped.

Since I'm immune to disaster rolls vs Macedonia I'm fighting the only battle that can have a guaranteed victory.. so why aren't we guaranteeing it by sending the right amount?
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03.09.2016 - 12:10
נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:34




Oi stop crying, I verbatim said to Safari, "Sending as few legions as possible seems like the best bet, save money, safe us from losing units in the event of a disaster". I made one call he made another.
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03.09.2016 - 12:21
נכתב על ידי MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 12:10

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:34




Oi stop crying, I verbatim said to Safari, "Sending as few legions as possible seems like the best bet, save money, safe us from losing units in the event of a disaster". I made one call he made another.


You know for a fact when you propose the construction of 6,8 or 0 legions, you're not going to produce 0....

So you had 17 non veteran legions to distribute.

The best way to buff the coughers is to win wars aswell, not just reduce spending.

We need our armies to defeat Hannibal and other enemies too, so you guys haven't thought this through very well at all.
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03.09.2016 - 12:27
נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:34




I should've communicated more with Safari but still, don't blame me for 'fucking up hard' when I didn't even decide what you're complaining about. Also, people do misread/understand things incorrectly, we're not all gods like you.
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03.09.2016 - 12:31
נכתב על ידי MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 12:27

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:34



we're not all gods like you.


Calm down m8
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03.09.2016 - 12:40
נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 12:31

נכתב על ידי MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 12:27

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:34



we're not all gods like you.


Calm down m8


Did I miss what you said earlier? You went and rolled for yourself to make some kind of statement then complained about things that didn't happen. I know you say you get too deep into rp's but criticizing everything everyone else doesn't make you look like a real nice guy.
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03.09.2016 - 12:44
נכתב על ידי MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 12:40

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 12:31

נכתב על ידי MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 12:27

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:34



we're not all gods like you.


Calm down m8


Did I miss what you said earlier? You went and rolled for yourself to make some kind of statement then complained about things that didn't happen. I know you say you get too deep into rp's but criticizing everything everyone else doesn't make you look like a real nice guy.



I just dont' see whats so hard to understand about how many legions are needed to safely defeat an opponent... when I' not given them it looks funny
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03.09.2016 - 13:15
נכתב על ידי MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 12:40

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 12:31

נכתב על ידי MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 12:27

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 11:34



we're not all gods like you.


Calm down m8


Did I miss what you said earlier? You went and rolled for yourself to make some kind of statement then complained about things that didn't happen. I know you say you get too deep into rp's but criticizing everything everyone else doesn't make you look like a real nice guy.


When you say I complained about things that didn't happen, are you referring to you rolling a 13? Because you have, I checked the battle rolls
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03.09.2016 - 13:31
נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 13:15




What?

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03.09.2016 - 13:37
נכתב על ידי MrArmy987, 03.09.2016 at 13:31

נכתב על ידי Phoenix, 03.09.2016 at 13:15




What?




You must have gone back too far buddy, Its just before all the test rolls. I'll do an SS myself after a cig
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