Clan War League [Proposal]

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 22.06.2016 at 06:07

-- All clans must play each other participating clan on 4 different settings:

• 3v3, Euro+, Extra Cities, 10k
• 4v4, Euro+ Extra Cities 3k
• 3v3 Africa Extra Cities 5k
• 5v5 Asia Extra Cities 10k

I'd change the 4 vs 4 3k to 5k, since it gives more posibilities. Just an opinion. And I don't know how hard will it be to have 5 players online at the same time for a clan.

Yes this, change the 3k to 5k, theres a reason nobody plays 3k teamgames, theyre horrible, picks and strategies are limited. 5k is much nicer.

I have to say though, i am not a big fan of all these different settings. 2 games on euro 10k was better. First pick on euro+ is an advantage. The original idea at least gave both teams that advantage.

The africa and asia dynamic is relatively untested compared to eu. I think china north is op, again that goes to first pick. It woud be better to reduce the league settings to 2 games on eu 10k and 2 on eu 5k with first pick being shared by each team. The 5k being 3v3 or 4v4. These are well tested settings that will encorporate 2 different styles of gameplay. We can introduce other maps in later leagues.

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 22.06.2016 at 09:25

Another possibility for amoks todo list would be to add a league game option to the dropdown menu when hosting a game. The invited clans would appear on a list and once the game starts it would be announced in global that a league game is starting, thus drawing more attention.

I have requested for similar features to be added, i guess if they are coming it will be with the tournament editor. Would also like plugins to social media as well as in game channels.

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 22.06.2016 at 09:57

Yes this, change the 3k to 5k, theres a reason nobody plays 3k teamgames, theyre horrible, picks and strategies are limited. 5k is much nicer.

I have to say though, i am not a big fan of all these different settings. 2 games on euro 10k was better. First pick on euro+ is an advantage. The original idea at least gave both teams that advantage.

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Could the clan leaders of invited clans please confirm if they wish to participate in this league, or not.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 22.06.2016 at 14:58

Could the clan leaders of invited clans please confirm if they wish to participate in this league, or not.

how about leaders that didnt get an invite...
enigma would be up for this league...

נכתב על ידי 1GodofWar1, 22.06.2016 at 15:04

how about leaders that didnt get an invite...
enigma would be up for this league...

Enigma has been invited.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 22.06.2016 at 15:13

נכתב על ידי 1GodofWar1, 22.06.2016 at 15:04

how about leaders that didnt get an invite...
enigma would be up for this league...

Enigma has been invited.

now we have XD and yes

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 22.06.2016 at 14:58

Could the clan leaders of invited clans please confirm if they wish to participate in this league, or not.

I confirm.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 22.06.2016 at 14:58

Could the clan leaders of invited clans please confirm if they wish to participate in this league, or not.

I don't know if SM has been invited but we'd be up for it too.

Illy confirmed.

Epic Clan is in.

Also please do consider the following: If a clan is using players with rank 8 or less and there is at least 2 rank difference between one clan's lowest rank and another, then the clan with the lowest member get an advantage. It can range from getting 1st pick, getting one particular country in the map or forcing the game to be played without upgrades.

Apply same measurement when there are non-premium players present in the teams.

That would create a handicap that evens the match and encourages the usage of low ranks. In order to exploit this system, you would want to have a rank 6 that plays like rank 10 - this is the type of people that we want in the competitive scene. Clans who still wishes to play with their highest members will still be able do it, but the handicap will even the field.

Coalitions that declines to CW simply due to those conditions could'be threatered as those who declined to CW due to the unavailability of their "best players" (I hope you've already though about a solution for this).

The idea sounds coherent and interesting but I abstain myself from commenting or taking part ( at least for now), for the obvious reasons.


May the best clan win!


Cheers

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 20.06.2016 at 11:20

We obviously don't want OP teams farming the league so we are considering that each clan must have at least one player below rank 7 playing, or any one player can only play in 50% of games - feedback would be welcome in terms of any ideas.

Why ?

Does Barcelona has to put their bad players when they play against a less good team in la liga ?

K idea, but im not an optimistic.
Even that we guna try.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 22.06.2016 at 21:11

Epic Clan is in.

Also please do consider the following: If a clan is using players with rank 8 or less and there is at least 2 rank difference between one clan's lowest rank and another, then the clan with the lowest member get an advantage. It can range from getting 1st pick, getting one particular country in the map or forcing the game to be played without upgrades.

Apply same measurement when there are non-premium players present in the teams.

That would create a handicap that evens the match and encourages the usage of low ranks. In order to exploit this system, you would want to have a rank 6 that plays like rank 10 - this is the type of people that we want in the competitive scene. Clans who still wishes to play with their highest members will still be able do it, but the handicap will even the field.

Coalitions that declines to CW simply due to those conditions could'be threatered as those who declined to CW due to the unavailability of their "best players" (I hope you've already though about a solution for this).

My solution to non premium players who want to play competitive would be to buy premium for the general, in most competitive sports there is a price to pay for training, equipment etc, here is no different.

As for rank disadvantages, I have only invited active clans with high rank players who compete with other clans at the moment anyway, so I cannot see how any difference will transpire in this league. My advice would be to rank up and get better to participate.

נכתב על ידי Zone, 23.06.2016 at 05:25

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 20.06.2016 at 11:20

We obviously don't want OP teams farming the league so we are considering that each clan must have at least one player below rank 7 playing, or any one player can only play in 50% of games - feedback would be welcome in terms of any ideas.

Why ?

Does Barcelona has to put their bad players when they play against a less good team in la liga ?

Yes, I have removed that from the proposal, This competition will aim to encourage the highest standards of the best players ability in the invited clans.

נכתב על ידי Dbacks, 22.06.2016 at 19:52

I don't know if SM has been invited but we'd be up for it too.

I invited bonker, though I am happy to accept from Officers and Leaders also if he isn't online.

Participating Coalitions:

evol

Illyria

Mortal Kombat

BiteMe!

Epic Clan

Enigma

Nordic Nationalists

Arisotkrats

The Immortals

Just waiting on Stalins..

I like the thing that you say you do not want any op clans in when you have all clans in ^^

How about having at least one non standard map included in the league, like ancient world map for more variety? 3v3 10k is my favorite, but 5k, 2v2, 4v4 are also playable. plus the map is among the most balanced maps there are.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.06.2016 at 07:24

Participating Coalitions:

evol

Illyria

Mortal Kombat

BiteMe!

Epic Clan

Enigma

Nordic Nationalists

Arisotkrats

The Immortals

Just waiting on Stalins..

Bonker and Desu are inactive dbacks is our acting leader he accepted.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.06.2016 at 07:24

Participating Coalitions:

evol

Illyria

Mortal Kombat

BiteMe!

Epic Clan

Enigma

Nordic Nationalists

Arisotkrats

The Immortals

Just waiting on Stalins..

Bonkz is inactive leader, just as desu. This is as much of a leader rn as you'll get xa

Are you considering reporting each of these cws as well? would look real nice and professional if we had like a yt video from knez or clovis (or anyone that can match their skills) for the cws played.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 22.06.2016 at 21:11

Epic Clan is in.

Also please do consider the following: If a clan is using players with rank 8 or less and there is at least 2 rank difference between one clan's lowest rank and another, then the clan with the lowest member get an advantage. It can range from getting 1st pick, getting one particular country in the map or forcing the game to be played without upgrades.

Apply same measurement when there are non-premium players present in the teams.

That would create a handicap that evens the match and encourages the usage of low ranks. In order to exploit this system, you would want to have a rank 6 that plays like rank 10 - this is the type of people that we want in the competitive scene. Clans who still wishes to play with their highest members will still be able do it, but the handicap will even the field.

Coalitions that declines to CW simply due to those conditions could'be threatered as those who declined to CW due to the unavailability of their "best players" (I hope you've already though about a solution for this).

I wouldnt be ok with a cw without upgrades not all of us play no ups frequently like you do but imo he already stated that every game must have at least one low rank ao it should be ok....
And for sun..how will we differentiate between reg cws and leauge cws?

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.06.2016 at 06:28

My solution to non premium players who want to play competitive would be to buy premium for the general, in most competitive sports there is a price to pay for training, equipment etc, here is no different.

As for rank disadvantages, I have only invited active clans with high rank players who compete with other clans at the moment anyway, so I cannot see how any difference will transpire in this league. My advice would be to rank up and get better to participate.

Sad to hear that this wonderful idea is planned to benefit a small part of the community.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 24.06.2016 at 06:46

Sad to hear that this wonderful idea is planned to benefit a small part of the community.

The idea is to give competitive players some kind of structure and other players another level in game play with more to play for, nobody is excluded and secondary tiers and lower level leagues will be considered if there is enough interest. It will be challenging enough to maintain activity, with a very simple structure without having further rules to complicate matters.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 24.06.2016 at 07:35

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 24.06.2016 at 06:46

Sad to hear that this wonderful idea is planned to benefit a small part of the community.

The idea is to give competitive players some kind of structure and other players another level in game play with more to play for, nobody is excluded and secondary tiers and lower level leagues will be considered if there is enough interest. It will be challenging enough to maintain activity, with a very simple structure without having further rules to complicate matters.

Junior clan war league for 5-7 or thereabouts would be great too
Even if it (junior league) isn't implemented, the idea as it stands is great

נכתב על ידי Darth., 25.06.2016 at 05:49

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 24.06.2016 at 07:35

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 24.06.2016 at 06:46

Sad to hear that this wonderful idea is planned to benefit a small part of the community.

The idea is to give competitive players some kind of structure and other players another level in game play with more to play for, nobody is excluded and secondary tiers and lower level leagues will be considered if there is enough interest. It will be challenging enough to maintain activity, with a very simple structure without having further rules to complicate matters.

Junior clan war league for 5-7 or thereabouts would be great too
Even if it (junior league) isn't implemented, the idea as it stands is great

Ofcourse that's being considered. But you do have to remember that generating enough activity for a league with 10 different clans, about 30 match days has to cause enough problems. To add in a whole extra league without working out the first one properly is madness.

נכתב על ידי Dbacks, 23.06.2016 at 15:11

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.06.2016 at 07:24

Participating Coalitions:

evol

Illyria

Mortal Kombat

BiteMe!

Epic Clan

Enigma

Nordic Nationalists

Arisotkrats

The Immortals

Just waiting on Stalins..

Bonkz is inactive leader, just as desu. This is as much of a leader rn as you'll get xa

Baha goes on holiday for 1 week classed as inactive....

Anyways yes we accept joining this project.