Community outcry

Do players really expect the map-maker to be completed any earlier with threads like this? Its clear that players don't have any idea of the massive undertaking the map making project is, yes its unfortunate the old map-editor is not available on certain browsers, however that is an issue that players should take with the companies abandoning Silverlight, not atWar. I can request more server restarts so maps can be published more frequently - the same tools are still available as before and no 'consumer rights' have been breached. Surely if we were trying to silence the community you wouldn't be able to find about 20-30 similar threads on our own forums.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.04.2016 at 20:27

yes its unfortunate the old map-editor is not available on certain browsers,

For my understanding they can always download the Desktop version of the game and create maps from there.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 20:31

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.04.2016 at 20:27

yes its unfortunate the old map-editor is not available on certain browsers,

For my understanding they can always download the Desktop version of the game and create maps from there.

Wrong again clovis, that's what I used to use before html5 and was the first thing to break after.

נכתב על ידי Helly, 23.04.2016 at 20:40

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 20:31

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.04.2016 at 20:27

yes its unfortunate the old map-editor is not available on certain browsers,

For my understanding they can always download the Desktop version of the game and create maps from there.

Wrong again clovis, that's what I used to use before html5 and was the first thing to break after.

Cool history bro.



Perhaps you can report the issue in the bug forums. For me, It works just great.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 21:04

נכתב על ידי Helly, 23.04.2016 at 20:40

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 20:31

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.04.2016 at 20:27

yes its unfortunate the old map-editor is not available on certain browsers,

For my understanding they can always download the Desktop version of the game and create maps from there.

Wrong again clovis, that's what I used to use before html5 and was the first thing to break after.

Cool history bro.



Perhaps you can report the issue in the bug forums. For me, It works just great.

Why would I do that? To wait 6 months for that to?

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 20:25

There are some points I want to clarify:
1. I do have no knowledge in this matter. I am no longer an active player

2. I base my argument on the facts other players drew in this thread, in the thread "Amok lied, people died", and the constant complaint I can see in forums

3. The facts may be wrong (I do not verify them. I do not have the same amount of time as you have spent in a virtual game) but they all unmistakenly pointed to a same conclusion - The system is flawed and need remedial measures

4. The map makers relied upon Amok's promises that remedial measures are to be implemented soon. I agree that the undertaking is huge. But if you cannot make it, do not make assurance. With delay, it is reasonable a part of the community would be disappointed or angry.

5. @Consumer right: With the wrong facts (Clarified by Sun Tzu) I admit there is no such consumer right. I apologize for relying on Honest Aztec who is dishonest in this matter. But players like Hell simply to express his the disappointment and anger is reasonable and tolerable

6. Again, please do not force them to eat shit. If the grievanced remains silence, nothing will effect in a foreseeable time.

7. I am up with these threads either. I do not like cry threads. But it is more disgusting to see players who unduly defend their masters and denied others' reasonable assertion of pressure for an assured promise, reasonable express of disappointment for an unsatisfied promise and reasonable call for improved quality for the game they paid

P.S. 1: I rarely posted in forum. I posted only because you designed a quote for Amok, then said "Let me be direct then. Would you rather want Amok to drop his RL just to finish this Map Editor?". The level of licking is stretched too far

P.S. 2: Peace. Please stop here. I really have no time

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.04.2016 at 20:27

1. Amok in Jan 2016 "It's 90% done, have a little patience, people."

2. Shifting responsibility to the community by categorizing them as cry threads is easy. However, but for the fact that Amok made this statement, players would not have assumed the heavy undertakings have been resolved, would not have reasonably expected it to be implemented soon, and would not in turn have reacted in this way

3. This is a poor display of public relations. To imply the disappointment as cry threads is even worse

4. I think an apology or a statement clarifying the expected commencement date by admin will better help tackle the "cry" instead of commenting "Another thread" everywhere

נכתב על ידי Helly, 23.04.2016 at 21:09

Why would I do that? To wait 6 months for that to?

Your decision.

Though we don't know if Ivan can fix it, which would take days if that was the case.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 20:25

Please define "broken".

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 20:25

The Map editor have a couple of bugs as Tunder said some posts above. However you can still edit your current maps and also create a new one (which will be available in the next server restart, as Tunder poined out above). What you're trying to do here is to make the current Map editor looks unusable, when in fact it is not.

if it takes 15 days for my maps to be playable, then the map editor is useless.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 20:25

I can see you were part of the group witch he by himself said that missed the point. His problem was pretty much that he could NOT start the map that he made not that he couldn't make maps.

His Issue has also been solved before this thread was made, therefore, this is a bad example for you to say "promises which never come true".

נכתב על ידי J.Schumpeter, 23.04.2016 at 20:25

"But i cannot now create new map because i cannot launch it (lol), I cannot test it."

That is a quote from Jschumpeter's topic, now based on the pictures that i provided above, can you say that he is going to be able to test new maps?

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And as i said above, editing existing maps is volatile and unsafe, as you could open the door to a unlimited amount of bugs, this is one of them:

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 21:04

נכתב על ידי Helly, 23.04.2016 at 20:40

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 23.04.2016 at 20:31

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.04.2016 at 20:27

yes its unfortunate the old map-editor is not available on certain browsers,

For my understanding they can always download the Desktop version of the game and create maps from there.

Wrong again clovis, that's what I used to use before html5 and was the first thing to break after.

Cool history bro.



Perhaps you can report the issue in the bug forums. For me, It works just great.

Like I said bugs effect everyone diferently, what breaks my rig might not effect you at all. But iv spoken to many people who randomly disconnect, just like me, everytime they go to save, but I don't want them to fix some stupid bug on a outdated server, we don't want any distractions on a three month late release on a feature that was already available when I purchased premium.

Edit: that's scenario editor it's a totally diferent thing then the actual map editor. Diference being you spend 45 minutes making a scenario in scenario editor and 3 months in map editor making the map.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 23.04.2016 at 20:27

Do players really expect the map-maker to be completed any earlier with threads like this? Its clear that players don't have any idea of the massive undertaking the map making project is, yes its unfortunate the old map-editor is not available on certain browsers, however that is an issue that players should take with the companies abandoning Silverlight, not atWar. I can request more server restarts so maps can be published more frequently - the same tools are still available as before and no 'consumer rights' have been breached. Surely if we were trying to silence the community you wouldn't be able to find about 20-30 similar threads on our own forums.

I can not on any browser save my map without a bunch of errors every single time. This is a problem that I was ok when map editor was promised in november, then again in january, then now again, march/april. This is my problem, now amok says I don't know when I'm busy, after time and time again failing me, on every dead line, now I feel betrayed,I'm sorry my tolerance has run out.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


I TOLD YOU SO

2020 UNTIL MAP MAKER COMES OUT

"WE ARE AT 99.99999999999999999999% DONE WITH MAP MAKER GUYS. DON'T WORRY, IT WILL COME OUT BY 2034." -AMOK

Do we get map maker if I ask nicely?

נכתב על ידי Viruslegion, 23.04.2016 at 23:49

Do we get map maker if I ask nicely?

Send a check to amok that might help

Clovis,is your brain so little that you cant get what are we talking about?
first point is about whats happening to SL map editor:
When you make new map in SL map editor,edit it,save,and try to load in html5,it doesnt work......
Second point is about rights:
You are talking that we don't have rights to demand map maker,because it is new feature,
I think that you understood this but you cant stop ball licking now.
MapMaker is an old feature,and befure you tell that we have it in SL,IT IS BROKEN.
Why:Servers on SL are falling a lot times,and as i told in first point
Another reason why you are wrong is:

Everything you that is granted if you PAY game must be available.
Now pls stop ball licking,please..

Clovis just step aside, Invis rekt you bigtime over and over. You need to let that pssy rest for a while!

Let's face it !
AMOK DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT!!!!

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 24.04.2016 at 05:46

Clovis just step aside, Invis rekt you bigtime over and over. You need to let that pssy rest for a while!

me and helly did nothing?

Everytime you defeat clovis he retreats into his own anus, waiting for someone to say something else he can argue about, completely ignoring valid points like he never read them, he has no clue what he's talking about, he just wants to be mod so damn bad he is completely blind to reality.

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 11:42

he just wants to be mod

I think he simply wants to be listened to and maybe tries to get someone to talk with or to agree with... all he gets is criticism though. Let him breathe.

Also, all this topics are utterly useless... you can complain once or twice, but 100 times is simply too much. You won't get anything from this. If you have complains, make it reach to admins personally... nothing will be gained by posting complains here, it's the sad truth

נכתב על ידי RaulPB, 24.04.2016 at 12:01

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 11:42

he just wants to be mod

I think he simply wants to be listened to and maybe tries to get someone to talk with or to agree with... all he gets is criticism though. Let him breathe.

Also, all this topics are utterly useless... you can complain once or twice, but 100 times is simply too much. You won't get anything from this. If you have complains, make it reach to admins personally... nothing will be gained by posting complains here, it's the sad truth

All I can say is read the above thread, we have discussed the use of this particular thread very extensively, and how unlike a cry thread this thread has merit, I like you raul but in this instance you are wrong my friend. I'll leave it at that unless you want to join clovis in club ball licker.

As i said, i would understand if this thread would be coming from an active player, but comming from a player who never plays the game anymore and who logs in forums just to be a rqcist shit and a retard such as hellraiser, makes me think this thread should be locked.

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 12:09

All I can say is read the above thread, we have discussed the use of this particular thread very extensively, and how unlike a cry thread this thread has merit, I like you raul but in this instance you are wrong my friend. I'll leave it at that unless you want to join clovis in club ball licker.

I agree with most of the things said but I simply believe this is a waste of time since we won't acomplish nothing by reiterating one and another time the same thing about the map editor and our right as consumers to have one...
I never stated this was a cry thread, but all we are doing is complaining, what other word can you find to what everyone else has posted so far?
Leave clovis out of this, come on, I'm starting to feel bad for him... And just in case you don't know me well enough yet, I don't lick anyone's balls. I simply have become tired of reading and reading but never getting any result. Amok will publish it as soon as he can, that's all there is to this. We can't do the work for him...

נכתב על ידי RaulPB, 24.04.2016 at 12:22

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 12:09

All I can say is read the above thread, we have discussed the use of this particular thread very extensively, and how unlike a cry thread this thread has merit, I like you raul but in this instance you are wrong my friend. I'll leave it at that unless you want to join clovis in club ball licker.

I agree with most of the things said but I simply believe this is a waste of time since we won't acomplish nothing by reiterating one and another time the same thing about the map editor and our right as consumers to have one...
I never stated this was a cry thread, but all we are doing is complaining, what other word can you find to what everyone else has posted so far?
Leave clovis out of this, come on, I'm starting to feel bad for him... And just in case you don't know me well enough yet, I don't lick anyone's balls. I simply have become tired of reading and reading but never getting any result. Amok will publish it as soon as he can, that's all there is to this. We can't do the work for him...

In a modern world where we can't just kill people for neglegeince the only thing we have left is pressure through protest, this is the only way to make ourselves heard I wish it was not true but I will express my distaste as a consumer until the product is delivered as it was sold to me.

נכתב על ידי RaulPB, 24.04.2016 at 12:01

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 11:42

he just wants to be mod

I think he simply wants to be listened to and maybe tries to get someone to talk with or to agree with... all he gets is criticism though. Let him breathe.

I feel that I can't add anything relevant to the discussion. If I were to reply, I'd just quote what I've already said previously.

I'll participate in this discussion once again when there's something relevant to reply to.

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 12:27

In a modern world where we can't just kill people for neglegeince the only thing we have left is pressure through protest, this is the only way to make ourselves heard I wish it was not true but I will express my distaste as a consumer until the product is delivered as it was sold to me.

Well... I'm not saying I don't respect it nor that I don't support it, but I admit it's starting to get annoying and I doubt the effectiveness since Amok could simply ignore all that's written here. I consider a direct approach to be more effective in this case.

I repeat, there's only a way to get what you want and that is by finally letting Amok finish it. Complaining here won't take you anywhere since the community can't do anything about it. Take the complain personally to Amok. I hope you understood my point.

נכתב על ידי clovis1122, 24.04.2016 at 12:29

I feel that I can't add anything relevant to the discussion. If I were to reply, I'd just quote what I've already said previously.

I'll participate in this discussion once again when there's something relevant to reply to.

The aim of participating is not adding new spontaneuos information but to reach a common view. You have failed up to this point. I would say that there's no reason for you to keep an eye on this discussion anymore, you won't convince anyone of your opinion.

נכתב על ידי RaulPB, 24.04.2016 at 12:32

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 12:27

In a modern world where we can't just kill people for neglegeince the only thing we have left is pressure through protest, this is the only way to make ourselves heard I wish it was not true but I will express my distaste as a consumer until the product is delivered as it was sold to me.

Well... I'm not saying I don't respect it nor that I don't support it, but I admit it's starting to get annoying and I doubt the effectiveness since Amok could simply ignore all that's written here. I consider a direct approach to be more effective in this case.

I repeat, there's only a way to get what you want and that is by finally letting Amok finish it. Complaining here won't take you anywhere since the community can't do anything about it. Take the complain personally to Amok. I hope you understood my point.

The same way a big business ignores it's unions right? They can pretend and say it has no effect, but I'm willing to say any pressure is good pressure at this point.

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 12:35

The same way a big business ignores it's unions right? They can pretend and say it has no effect, but I'm willing to say any pressure is good pressure at this point.

Are you sure? After all these months? Why not giving a try and go for a direct approach to amok? Maybe he could explain you what's going on in a private message and dissolve your doubts. If this didn't help, then you could always return to protest on a public level again, and this time with further information on your hands.

נכתב על ידי RaulPB, 24.04.2016 at 12:38

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 12:35

The same way a big business ignores it's unions right? They can pretend and say it has no effect, but I'm willing to say any pressure is good pressure at this point.

Are you sure? After all these months? Why not giving a try and go for a direct approach to amok? Maybe he could explain you what's going on in a private message and dissolve your doubts. If this didn't help, then you could always return to protest on a public level again, and this time with further information on your hands.

I have tried go try yourself, he will ignore you like everyone else, compromise is always the best answer and the first thing I tried, he does, not respond, ivan will ocassionally and, sun almost always.

נכתב על ידי Helly, 24.04.2016 at 12:41

I have tried go try yourself, he will ignore you like everyone else, compromise is always the best answer and the first thing I tried, he does, not respond, ivan will ocassionally and, sun almost always.

If he ignores you on a personal level, then he will do the same on a public level... not sure if he has personal reasons to do so such as having trolled him in the past or that he simply doesn't care about your issues. I personally have never talked to amok so I don't feel empowered to judge him.

As for Ivan, I've talked with him a few times about translation issues. If I recall right, he has always answered me so far. As for sun, he also usually answers as well. But they can't do anything about this, only amok can... so there's only one solution, get an answer from him. Talk with a mod that might have a closer contact with him for instance.