The Cartographer #1

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This newsletter, The Cartographer, composed by a team of Cartographers and Community Figures through-out AtWar, new and old, that have come together to bring you a newsletter aimed at bringing guides on the Map-Editor/AtWar altogether, legitimate debates in AW, healthy drama in AtWar, reviews, interviews, and more. We do not aim to be biased nor do we aim to start flamewars. We hope to bring new releases bi-weekly and if not, whenever we can! There is a lot to report on in the Cartography community. We'd like to also thank the Imperial Academy's contribution.

Enjoy!

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Creed, a new cartography clan on AtWar aims for new heights.

In an interview with the clan's founder, Vertiven, we found out that Creed focuses more on the creativity of its members - with pride in originality. Giving each member that creates a map to have their map placed in the spotlight. From start to finish they guide their members in the right direction, giving them all a chance to not only become a popular cartographer in AtWar, but to enjoy the game and expand its maps and in the end bringing new content to the community.

Creed consists (and will consist) of fellow people who also make maps of their own, learning and achieving their highest standard possible. Its founder has also collaborated with other clans such as Aloysian Guard and certain people in Valkyria to help out with making, teaching, testing out, and playing maps. We also had looked into what kind of maps they are already making, however we are unable to publicly disclose this as they didn't want to spoil it or give away ideas to someone who could make the map faster and copy it.

Creed is still looking for more cartographers in the clan and is currently in the middle of creating a guide for cartography to use in the clan, to teach their members who wish to create maps. So if you want to learn how to make maps, we highly suggest you go there!

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The Cartographer Editor Team wanted to give the community insight about a new map that has been released. So, we interviewed Witch-Doctor himself.


What made you want to make this map? Which editor did you use and how long did it take you to complete it?

Witch-Doctor:
Wanted to show that competitive players can make quality maps and scenarios. I initially used html5 editor to make my map. I actually finished the map itself and added all the cities. This took about 2 months of work. Then, I wanted to delete the USSR and redraw it. I ended up permanently breaking my map while trying to delete Russia. I waited about 3 weeks for Clovis to fix it and I was also super burned it about it too. I got tired of waiting and decided to completely redo it in Silverlight. It took a months of hard painstaking work to recreate the map in Silverlight. Most of it was because I wanted to up the quality on everything.



Did you research before you made the map? Are your borders accurate?

Witch-Doctor:
I had to do quite a bit of research when planning for the scenario. My goal was to have a long scale scenario involving 7 players and I took inspiration from how other scenarios like ostfront and ror balanced it. The borders are as accurate as I can make them with resources available. I had to make some ahistorical merging of territories for the sake of the 7 player limit.


Do you think your map has convinced other cartographers and future cartographers to make more maps for AW, despite editor being in a bad condition?

Witch-Doctor:
I know I've inspired some people with my implementation of a "research tree". The editor is an awful place right now, the admins are insisting we cannot make new Silverlight maps so brand new map makers are being screwed. I didn't see the html5 editor being viable for a long time.


and to end the interview, we asked for a guide on the map, which can be found here. The map is also based on the Second Sino-Japanese war from 1937-1945.

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No Cartographer can make a map on the game without a good working map editor. And so far, it has been somewhat of a struggle to get to where we need to be on it's progress.

The Editors of The Cartographer debated deeply if we should begin the start of our guides for map editing yet, and they all came to the conclusion that certain stuff needed to be addressed first.

The editor has had troubles finding its bugs and fixing them due to not enough people going to the test server and testing out the editor. Without this testing, Admins will have to do it themselves, which can be hours of work.

Therefore, The Cartographer is recommending every player to go to the test server and begin testing maps, making maps, making units, etc. Get enough of it in to help out the admins and discover the source of the problems, so it will take not only less time to code it but less time to release the editor. If you find any bugs, they should be reported here.

Our series of guides will begin with our next release of The Cartographer.

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The Cartographer wants to ensure AtWar stays stable in map creation, diversity, creativity, and efficiency. Therefore, we have assembled a team of experienced Cartographers on AW that have created their own programs to teach players wanting to join the current generation of Cartographers. The Cartographer also wants to keep including guest writers, who are people in the community who have their work featured on the newsletter.

We wanted to first give the public a chance to ask any question relating to the map editor(s) and will be handing out emails set up for AW usage so the questions and answers can be private.

The list of Cartographers who will answer your questions are:

Professor Adus, Lecturer of Strategic Cartography and Statistical Analysis
a.pulcher@imperialunion.org

Professor Panda, Lecturer of Strategic Cartography
p.pulcher@imperialunion.org

Professor WaiserReich, Lecturer of Innovative Sciences
w.pulcher@imperialunion.org

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HOW ABOUT YOU MAP THESE DABS

נכתב על ידי boywind2, 26.09.2018 at 05:18

HOW ABOUT YOU MAP THESE DABS

too pro 4 me, ask our god, Zephyrusu

Cool idea

ok so first:

creed was founded 3 weeks ago yet it has 2 members only and you claim it to be "Creed consists (and will consist) of fellow people who also make maps of their own,"

looks like a commercial or something (altho if it helps the community i guess its fine, but this means you should be fair and also show clans as optimates, the cabal, the entente, and the empire which all have much more known and experienced map makers).

the sino-japan war map is old news but since no one had a well made interview with wd, this is quiet a smart thing to do, he is also a new map maker.

and the "Map Editor: Bug Fixing" well its a good note and criticizing the admins in a good way, but tbh this isnt the way to solve the bugs, ill give you my opinion on how to fix them, have a team of small, trained, good map makers, that will make maps and toghter fill a report for clovis, otherwise he will be spammed with 1000 messages of same bug, on the other hand you could have adviced them to check the bug reporting forum altho is mentioned inside the editor itself.

last and most important thing, 

Professor Adus, Lecturer of Strategic Cartography and Statistical Analysis 

a.pulcher@imperialunion.org



Professor Panda, Lecturer of Strategic Cartography

p.pulcher@imperialunion.org



Professor WaiserReich, Lecturer of Innovative Sciences

w.pulcher@imperialunion.org



this is totally not needed but k

also please, dont make so much drama in the comments, this idea is quite good if it can keep drama out, if you rather you can look on this like "atwar press" of map making or something

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

נכתב על ידי j-e-s-u-s, 26.09.2018 at 17:03

told u my opinion via discord.

נכתב על ידי Al Fappino, 26.09.2018 at 20:11

I'm not saying you're not right, but I'd say to have some patience, as this looks like being the 1st edition, so I wouldn't exclude any interview with anybody from those clans that has a foothold in mapmaking or the scenario community, in present-times/recent past.

It's a positive criticism, but then again, this post is literally advertising a recent, ambitious clan, and an interview with a mapmaker about its scenario map, that's all xD no real exclusion other than from this edition itself, apparently-only.

i ll keep in mind tnx

נכתב על ידי Alois, 26.09.2018 at 23:27

told u my opinion via discord.

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

Cleaned the topic of drama and bickering. Keep it civil guys. The purpose of this thread is the promotion of the mapmaking community.

Honestly i think i can speak for the majority of the forum users on this game when i say we are sick of reading about you guys and your petty and pointless conflicts in every other thread. I see nothing to indicate that alois is deceiving people here. Instead he's just trying to do something good. Last i checked you guys also appeared to be interested in trying to help out new mapmakers. So combining that goal with the desire to speed up the production of the html5 mapmaker - can we all try finding some way of helping each other out instead of undermining each other's efforts? And yes trystane that also goes for you too and whether mapmakers should call themselves cartographers or not.

Any further dissent or unproductive comments about this thread will result in a forum mute.

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 27.09.2018 at 12:13

Any further dissent or unproductive comments about this thread will result in a forum mute.

Skimmed off more of the mess, lets try to stay on topic, and refrain from flamewars, shitposting, etc.

Thanks!

נכתב על ידי Sultan of Swing, 27.09.2018 at 15:27

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 27.09.2018 at 12:13

Any further dissent or unproductive comments about this thread will result in a forum mute.

Skimmed off more of the mess, lets try to stay on topic, and refrain from flamewars, shitposting, etc.

Thanks!

They can't make maps for shit.

I demand that Alois show us two quality custom html5 maps made by him from scratch within the 12 hours, as evidence that he is a map maker. If he can't then he is full of shit and you are a dumbass for getting fooled by the biggest hypocrites in the game.

If he can show two quality html5 maps, i will delete my account.

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 27.09.2018 at 12:13

Honestly i think i can speak for the majority of the forum users on this game when i say we are sick of reading about you guys and your petty and pointless conflicts in every other thread. I see nothing to indicate that alois is deceiving people here. Instead he's just trying to do something good. Last i checked you guys also appeared to be interested in trying to help out new mapmakers. So combining that goal with the desire to speed up the production of the html5 mapmaker - can we all try finding some way of helping each other out instead of undermining each other's efforts? And yes trystane that also goes for you too and whether mapmakers should call themselves cartographers or not.

Any further dissent or unproductive comments about this thread will result in a forum mute.

They can't make maps for shit.

I demand that Alois show us two quality custom html5 maps made by him from scratch within the 12 hours, as evidence that he is a map maker. If he can't then he is full of shit and you are a dumbass for getting fooled by the biggest hypocrites in the game.

If he can show two quality html5 maps, i will delete my account.

On a serious note, hopefully I don't get cucked by big man Lao but I was wondering if you could maybe give us some info on some of the projects you may be working on? I could be willing to give a hand design wise. Or if you're interested I have some decent ideas that I've not started yet.

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.09.2018 at 18:29

They can't make maps for shit.

I demand that Alois show us two quality custom html5 maps made by him from scratch within the 12 hours, as evidence that he is a map maker. If he can't then he is full of shit and you are a dumbass for getting fooled by the biggest hypocrites in the game.

If he can show two quality html5 maps, i will delete my account.

add mine to the bet, along with all the alts that i know having

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

נכתב על ידי j-e-s-u-s, 27.09.2018 at 19:41

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.09.2018 at 18:29

They can't make maps for shit.

I demand that Alois show us two quality custom html5 maps made by him from scratch within the 12 hours, as evidence that he is a map maker. If he can't then he is full of shit and you are a dumbass for getting fooled by the biggest hypocrites in the game.

If he can show two quality html5 maps, i will delete my account.

add mine to the bet, along with all the alts that i know having

Why back up your claims when you can just delete comments? All you have to do is lagitimize how alois is a map maker it's that simple. One map he made from scratch, with 50 plays, if you can show me that I'll delete my account.

Why cant u mapmakers just make peace with each other hug it out and just make maps without beefing with each other over whos is better , who has more and all that weird shit xD

L

נכתב על ידי sirivann, 28.09.2018 at 12:25

Why cant u mapmakers just make peace with each other hug it out and just make maps without beefing with each other over whos is better , who has more and all that weird shit xD

L

Hes not a map maker that's why.

נכתב על ידי sirivann, 28.09.2018 at 12:25

Why cant u mapmakers just make peace with each other hug it out and just make maps without beefing with each other over whos is better , who has more and all that weird shit xD

L

because the other map makers don't agree with me that toucans are the best of the bird species

נכתב על ידי Helly, 28.09.2018 at 14:03

נכתב על ידי sirivann, 28.09.2018 at 12:25

Why cant u mapmakers just make peace with each other hug it out and just make maps without beefing with each other over whos is better , who has more and all that weird shit xD

L

Hes not a map maker that's why.

Personally, I'd just like to say that I personally dont need to make a map in order to release this. I got in contact with map makers. so the fact you bring up "OH HE HAS NO MAPS, HES NOT LEGIT, GIVE US PROOF" (which btw I did, 3 times, you just said I copied or faked it) is just pathetic. I will no longer reply to you after this, you're just looking for a fight because someone else is doing crap like this, it's almost like anyone who does anything for the community is doing it for power and prestige to you guys.

נכתב על ידי Alois, 28.09.2018 at 16:36

נכתב על ידי Helly, 28.09.2018 at 14:03

נכתב על ידי sirivann, 28.09.2018 at 12:25

Why cant u mapmakers just make peace with each other hug it out and just make maps without beefing with each other over whos is better , who has more and all that weird shit xD

L

Hes not a map maker that's why.

Personally, I'd just like to say that I personally dont need to make a map in order to release this. I got in contact with map makers. so the fact you bring up "OH HE HAS NO MAPS, HES NOT LEGIT, GIVE US PROOF" (which btw I did, 3 times, you just said I copied or faked it) is just pathetic. I will no longer reply to you after this, you're just looking for a fight because someone else is doing crap like this, it's almost like anyone who does anything for the community is doing it for power and prestige to you guys.

You bought a domain name for a.jpg drag and-drop browser game fanclub

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.09.2018 at 10:38

You bought a domain name for a.jpg drag and-drop browser game fanclub

k and?

נכתב על ידי Alois, 28.09.2018 at 16:39

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.09.2018 at 10:38

You bought a domain name for a.jpg drag and-drop browser game fanclub

k and?

Just stating it for the record, not an attack. I'm helping you here.

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.09.2018 at 10:38

Just stating it for the record, not an attack. I'm helping you here.

then why did you mention it? literally nothing to do with the topic.. LOL

נכתב על ידי Alois, 28.09.2018 at 16:43

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.09.2018 at 10:38

Just stating it for the record, not an attack. I'm helping you here.

then why did you mention it? literally nothing to do with the topic.. LOL

It gives you credibility. Done helping you now, you're mean to me. Qq

נכתב על ידי Alois, 28.09.2018 at 16:36

נכתב על ידי Helly, 28.09.2018 at 14:03

נכתב על ידי sirivann, 28.09.2018 at 12:25

Why cant u mapmakers just make peace with each other hug it out and just make maps without beefing with each other over whos is better , who has more and all that weird shit xD

L

Hes not a map maker that's why.

Personally, I'd just like to say that I personally dont need to make a map in order to release this. I got in contact with map makers. so the fact you bring up "OH HE HAS NO MAPS, HES NOT LEGIT, GIVE US PROOF" (which btw I did, 3 times, you just said I copied or faked it) is just pathetic. I will no longer reply to you after this, you're just looking for a fight because someone else is doing crap like this, it's almost like anyone who does anything for the community is doing it for power and prestige to you guys.

That parts fine dude it's the added crap. Those are alts not real people and adogs been gone from atwar for years. The academy is bullshit. Stop acting like your some huge conglomerate originization, when it just ain't true. Your one guy with a dozen followers using the foundation of adogs ambitions to launch yours and that's a fact.

Is all smoke and mirrors to get the ~

נכתב על ידי Alois, 28.09.2018 at 16:43

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.09.2018 at 10:38

Just stating it for the record, not an attack. I'm helping you here.

then why did you mention it? literally nothing to do with the topic.. LOL

Ignore the trolls, my question was actually serious. I'm interested in getting involved in some projects and even have some I can propose myself.

נכתב על ידי Guest, 27.09.2018 at 19:09

On a serious note, hopefully I don't get cucked by big man Lao but I was wondering if you could maybe give us some info on some of the projects you may be working on? I could be willing to give a hand design wise. Or if you're interested I have some decent ideas that I've not started yet.

I'll mail you. As I don't want people like Hellykin trying to start a flamewar.