ENIGMA vs The Bermuda Triangle (cancelled cw)

I have need to point at unjustice, I am talking about cw between enigma vs the bermuda triangle. Cw is deleted. I watched game and everything was legit. Lategame hammer and universalli were winning against heat check who was only mod online, and he is a member of enigma. Heat check rage quits and bermuda wins, but cw is deleted without trace and enigma didn't lost elo.
I have these pictures http://prntscr.com/cblax3 http://prntscr.com/cblb49 which confirmes and game had a lot of spectators who can confirm this.
I just want to enigma lose elo, because that elo decides their position, which they lost, fairly.
I also want your opinion about abusing mod powers.

You guys are pretty quick to jump to conclusions. Just because the CW did not count I deleted it? Yes Bermuda deserves the win and yes they will get their elo, there is no problem with that. I told the members of Bermuda to contact an admin to get the elo from that game, so it is in their hands now. Also just so you know I didn't delete the CW, because as you know that would be kinda stupid to do in a game that tons of ppl were watching and witnessed. Instead you may have noticed that the servers crashed/lagged at the same time as the CW was being won, therefore it didn't record in the system, however it was on players profiles; this is a rare occurrence but it has happend in the past.

I dont think he deleted it, most likely a bug, we had the same thing few weeks ago, amok sorted it all out at the end.

Then why gow said that he wont give bermuda elo this season?

There is no "giving elo". Bermuda wanted ENIGMA to give them a free win, however this is not the proper way of getting the elo they deserve. As cive mentioned above, they should contact an admin and they will add/subtract the elo from the respective clans, its as simple as that.

נכתב על ידי Heat Check, 29.08.2016 at 07:51

There is no "giving elo". Bermuda wanted ENIGMA to give them a free win, however this is not the proper way of getting the elo they deserve. As cive mentioned above, they should contact an admin and they will add/subtract the elo from the respective clans, its as simple as that.

ya, and time that amok/ivan will come into the game and care to fix it will be next season probably? If you guys wanted to fix that cw, you would just delete that bugged cw and give them a free elo, but i understand that you dont care too, you have 3 moderators in clan and think you are unstopable.

נכתב על ידי Oleg, 29.08.2016 at 07:55

ya, and time that amok/ivan will come into the game and care to fix it will be next season probably? If you guys wanted to fix that cw, you would just delete that bugged cw and give them a free elo, but i understand that you dont care too, you have 3 moderators in clan and think you are unstopable.

Can you please clarify, how exactly do I delete a bugged CW that does not appear on the CW record? How do i remove a CW that no one can see? And as i just mentioned, giving out free elo is not the way to do things. Say you saw me making a CW against Bermuda and then we all left turn 3, you would then be making a thread about ENIGMA throwing games to them and feeding elo because you are so quick to bud your nose in things you know nothing of. Yes, ENIGMA is so unstoppable with all our mods, how about you're beloved Martians? Multiple mods in a clan has nothing to do with this.

Heat didn't delete the cw, free elo is a less optimal way to arrange the elo transfer, admin is needed to make sure BT gets the elo it deserves, which obv should count this season since the cw was played this season.

נכתב על ידי Heat Check, 29.08.2016 at 07:51

There is no "giving elo". Bermuda wanted ENIGMA to give them a free win, however this is not the proper way of getting the elo they deserve. As cive mentioned above, they should contact an admin and they will add/subtract the elo from the respective clans, its as simple as that.

I can understand the preference of formalities rather than a 'quick-and-dirty' solution.

But as a player that has been waiting half year to get his seasonal badge fixed, I can tell you that the problems will complicate more if you wait for admin's interception. The first thing is that we don't know when they will be available for this, and if the season happens to end (2 days left) and the game result to be definitive for 2nd place, then admins will have more work fixing the score and the badges. Ultimately it could never get to happen if admins are busy / forget to do it.

Admins got a lot of things to do. I'd rather solve the problem without their presence than to add another thing to their TO-DO list. But of course that's just my approach.

In case this serves anything, when I calculated the ELO won/lost it was +-18.8. If Enigma were to give a win to Bermuda now it would'be 17.8. Just 1 ELO difference.

I think we can go for the approach clovis suggests, but only if we are sure the lost cw will be lost forever. I mean, if the cw might still get tracked in the days to come it would get a bit messy for sure. Anyone who have experience with this please advice, Im fine with solving it either way, the argument of not going full bureaucratic on the admins kinda makes sense to me tbh

Honestly this happened to us before vs noobs clan and we never got our elo this game did not count due to the same bug or restart of servers why should yours count while ours didnt? Tbh i dont think you should get the elo to be fair with other cancelled cws that never got theirs, And i will definitely not give them a new free win just to have this one bite us in the ass in the future.
If you want this cw to count pm admins and work it by them if they decide to give it to you its their choice.

'Honestly this happened to us before vs noobs clan and we never got our elo this game did not count due to the same bug or restart of servers why should yours count while ours didnt?'

Nice reasoning u must be really smart

I had some small ammount of respect left for enigma, seems like its all gone now.

We are so mad now! heat does not deserve to be mod! ... srsly stop shitting on mods, if there was abuse then people from the clans involved would take action

Noone was to blame for this , it was bad timing i guess , from what i know .... but i think ENIGMA should show respect to the new clan and let them take the elo they deserve...

נכתב על ידי Heat Check, 29.08.2016 at 07:40

You guys are pretty quick to jump to conclusions. Just because the CW did not count I deleted it? Yes Bermuda deserves the win and yes they will get their elo, there is no problem with that. I told the members of Bermuda to contact an admin to get the elo from that game, so it is in their hands now. Also just so you know I didn't delete the CW, because as you know that would be kinda stupid to do in a game that tons of ppl were watching and witnessed. Instead you may have noticed that the servers crashed/lagged at the same time as the CW was being won, therefore it didn't record in the system, however it was on players profiles; this is a rare occurrence but it has happend in the past.

This is just a big cover-up comment. ,,pretty quick to jump to conclusions"

Nice drama thread about a non-issue.

נכתב על ידי Oleg, 29.08.2016 at 07:55

ya, and time that amok/ivan will come into the game and care to fix it will be next season probably? If you guys wanted to fix that cw, you would just delete that bugged cw and give them a free elo, but i understand that you dont care too, you have 3 moderators in clan and think you are unstopable.

But they ARE unstoppable. Careful now, you know what they like to do to silly kids who make stupid forum posts?

נכתב על ידי Oleg, 29.08.2016 at 19:42

They tried, just like u did a few months ago.

ah yes the 1 day ban you never got over that was reversed wrongly by a noob mod. Ever wonder why you haven't been permabanned? Theres a strong case there. Shitposting trolling and flaming on the forums(on this account and your previous one), long history of mutes/bans, attempted to manipulate the modteam in order to gain control of the andertes name from tito, 0 positive contribution to the community. You're the definition of a toxic presense. Bearing all this in mind, you probably shouldnt piss off the modteam with false public accusations of corruption.

נכתב על ידי 1GodofWar1, 29.08.2016 at 11:59

Honestly this happened to us before vs noobs clan and we never got our elo this game did not count due to the same bug or restart of servers why should yours count while ours didnt? Tbh i dont think you should get the elo to be fair with other cancelled cws that never got theirs, And i will definitely not give them a new free win just to have this one bite us in the ass in the future.
If you want this cw to count pm admins and work it by them if they decide to give it to you its their choice.

yes. similar situations have happened to everyone. although it is usually resolved.

boohoo

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 29.08.2016 at 18:30

Nice drama thread about a non-issue.

נכתב על ידי Oleg, 29.08.2016 at 07:55

ya, and time that amok/ivan will come into the game and care to fix it will be next season probably? If you guys wanted to fix that cw, you would just delete that bugged cw and give them a free elo, but i understand that you dont care too, you have 3 moderators in clan and think you are unstopable.

But they ARE unstoppable. Careful now, you know what they like to do to silly kids who make stupid forum posts?

Oooo. you scared him now...i guess youre a kid thinking that in a online game.

Bottom line is the missing CW should be registered quickly (actually immediately ) after the issue otherwise it's a complete mess given how elo works... all cw elo results after that one are inaccurate, not just these 2 clans but any other cwing them
so imo waiting for admin to do something while it s 2 days away from end of season and they are on (permanent?) holidays isnt gonna do the trick
cheers

I'm sure this was a glitch. i experienced something like this before in a duel when a person disconnects and the opponent surrenders or leaves the game at the same time, it removes the elo gains or loses from that game.

not sure if the glitch only happens when there is a mod on the other team; however, it is a bug and it can just easily be fixed with the help of admins giving bt the elo that they deserve and removing the elo from enigma.

no point in pointing fingers at heatler.

nevertheless, i agree with kraigg

נכתב על ידי Kraigg, 30.08.2016 at 01:22

Bottom line is the missing CW should be registered quickly (actually immediately ) after the issue otherwise it's a complete mess given how elo works...

I do agree with clovis. We all know what will happen when you get your trophy, it will get forgotten, like every fking thing in this game, admins wont waste their time, since they already do 0% wasting their time on this game. Just give them their free cw elo, they deserve it, like Heat said above.

Also I dont get why people get mad that people doubt the mod abusing? It is a clan with 3 mods, to what it seems would do much for their clan. And not like any other mod in this game hasnt ever abused power. It is being a mod, without being held in control by the admins, is all about in this game.

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 30.08.2016 at 05:13

I do agree with clovis. We all know what will happen when you get your trophy, it will get forgotten, like every fking thing in this game, admins wont waste their time, since they already do 0% wasting their time on this game. Just give them their free cw elo, they deserve it, like Heat said above.

Also I dont get why people get mad that people doubt the mod abusing? It is a clan with 3 mods, to what it seems would do much for their clan. And not like any other mod in this game hasnt ever abused power. It is being a mod, without being held in control by the admins, is all about in this game.

Honestly waffel you dont know heat prom and dino if you say thatthere is no way they would ever do something like that

נכתב על ידי 1GodofWar1, 30.08.2016 at 05:23

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 30.08.2016 at 05:13

I do agree with clovis. We all know what will happen when you get your trophy, it will get forgotten, like every fking thing in this game, admins wont waste their time, since they already do 0% wasting their time on this game. Just give them their free cw elo, they deserve it, like Heat said above.

Also I dont get why people get mad that people doubt the mod abusing? It is a clan with 3 mods, to what it seems would do much for their clan. And not like any other mod in this game hasnt ever abused power. It is being a mod, without being held in control by the admins, is all about in this game.

Honestly waffel you dont know heat prom and dino if you say thatthere is no way they would ever do something like that

I do. Thats why I said it. Every mod is capable of doing things in their own favours, because who is looking out for them? That's right, nobody.

Wow.... so much drama... I just can't find the best suitable picture to describe all this....



Where's columna with his memes?

On topic: get a life, stop caring so much. Don't get involved in other people's business, BT and enigma should be the ones talking about a solution, not everyone else.

נכתב על ידי klevis, 30.08.2016 at 00:47

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 29.08.2016 at 18:30

Nice drama thread about a non-issue.

נכתב על ידי Oleg, 29.08.2016 at 07:55

ya, and time that amok/ivan will come into the game and care to fix it will be next season probably? If you guys wanted to fix that cw, you would just delete that bugged cw and give them a free elo, but i understand that you dont care too, you have 3 moderators in clan and think you are unstopable.

But they ARE unstoppable. Careful now, you know what they like to do to silly kids who make stupid forum posts?

Oooo. you scared him now...i guess youre a kid thinking that in a online game.

666 posts, how very fitting for a snake.

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 30.08.2016 at 06:37

נכתב על ידי klevis, 30.08.2016 at 00:47

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 29.08.2016 at 18:30

Nice drama thread about a non-issue.

נכתב על ידי Oleg, 29.08.2016 at 07:55

ya, and time that amok/ivan will come into the game and care to fix it will be next season probably? If you guys wanted to fix that cw, you would just delete that bugged cw and give them a free elo, but i understand that you dont care too, you have 3 moderators in clan and think you are unstopable.

But they ARE unstoppable. Careful now, you know what they like to do to silly kids who make stupid forum posts?

Oooo. you scared him now...i guess youre a kid thinking that in a online game.

666 posts, how very fitting for a snake.

Once upon a time.....dude get a life aw is just a game. None gives a fuck who is mod or what can they do.

נכתב על ידי klevis, 30.08.2016 at 07:37

Once upon a time.....dude get a life aw is just a game. None gives a fuck who is mod or what can they do.

youre so wise.