"Unfair" battle outcomes

Time and time again I hear people complaining about unfair battle outcomes. "Surely my superior force should've defeated that puny army?", they say. Well, in most case, sure, but there are exceptions, and they are absolutely necessary.

First of all, if you're interested in battle mechanics, I can recommend you to put the slowest battle speed in your settings - this will show the actual rolls (damage) and help you understand the mechanics. Also, here's a FAQ battles entry. Basically, every unit normally has 7 HP (hit points) and a certain range of attack and defense rolls (depending on the situation). That range is always 1 to max attack/defense (which you can see on the units page / units menu in the game).

Now, if you're extremely unlucky, your unit will roll 1 several times in a row, only dealing 1 damage each time. It would take 8 hits just to take one enemy unit down. Every time you attack, an enemy unit fires back (using their defense stats). So, every time you will also be taking damage. Again, in an extreme situation, enemy can take down one unit per shot.

Things like that happen, and the randomness and unpredictability factor that they bring is extremely important to keep the gameplay exciting and being closer to the real world, where as you know, pure numbers don't always win and unpredictable outcomes happen all the time.

The fog of war, as Clausewitz said, where actions have unintended consequences.

AtWar is not a game of perfect and predictable calculations that would bring a mathematician joy. Sometimes, you just have to accept your luck.

Just some thoughts.

Well i deal with it ,just ironfirst seams to have same defense as pd in all the battles i tested

I guarantee that the same people who complain about bad rolls are getting the same amount of lucky ones.

נכתב על ידי Goblin, 27.01.2015 at 04:53

I guarantee that the same people who complain about bad rolls are getting the same amount of lucky ones.

no

Lotto and bingo at war...

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 07:31

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

There is no skill in memorization. Sorry.

נכתב על ידי ArminyMouse, 27.01.2015 at 05:41

נכתב על ידי klevis, 27.01.2015 at 04:21

Well i deal with it ,just ironfirst seams to have same defense as pd in all the battles i tested

Noob,why you trolling,ik you'r albanian,but you dont need to troll here.
Iron fist is rly hard to beat lol,
I know bcs i steted too:
2 iron fist inf can beat 5 perfect def inf.
5 perfect def inf. cant beat 2 iron fist inf

I remember once a PD inf beat one of my IF inf (I was defending) in a Eu+ 3 vs 3

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.01.2015 at 07:54

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 07:31

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

There is no skill in memorization. Sorry.

There is also no skill in playing bad and winning. Sorry.

HINT: this is just like risk guys xD.

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 08:16

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.01.2015 at 07:54

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 07:31

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

There is no skill in memorization. Sorry.

There is also no skill in playing bad and winning. Sorry.

So if you win, you are a fucking op pro
If you lose, the other guy was a lucky noob.

I get it.

נכתב על ידי ArminyMouse, 27.01.2015 at 12:17

נכתב על ידי RaulPB, 27.01.2015 at 08:10

I remember once a PD inf beat one of my IF inf (I was defending) in a Eu+ 3 vs 3

bla,that's called critical.

Or simply a bad roll

נכתב על ידי ArminyMouse, 27.01.2015 at 05:41

נכתב על ידי klevis, 27.01.2015 at 04:21

Well i deal with it ,just ironfirst seams to have same defense as pd in all the battles i tested

Noob,why you trolling,ik you'r albanian,but you dont need to troll here.
Iron fist is rly hard to beat lol,
I know bcs i steted too:
2 iron fist inf can beat 5 perfect def inf.
5 perfect def inf. cant beat 2 iron fist inf

please don't quote when you don't have no idea for what im talking about

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

Atwar vegas

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.01.2015 at 08:27

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 08:16

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.01.2015 at 07:54

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 07:31

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

There is no skill in memorization. Sorry.

There is also no skill in playing bad and winning. Sorry.

So if you win, you are a fucking op pro
If you lose, the other guy was a lucky noob.

I get it.

I said also , I do get rekt sometimes

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 08:16

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.01.2015 at 07:54

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 07:31

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

There is no skill in memorization. Sorry.

There is also no skill in playing bad and winning. Sorry.

Knez have OP rolls all the time ! gg no re xD p.s also he is known hacker!

נכתב על ידי Ferlucci1389, 27.01.2015 at 16:13

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 08:16

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.01.2015 at 07:54

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 07:31

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

There is no skill in memorization. Sorry.

There is also no skill in playing bad and winning. Sorry.

Knez have OP rolls all the time ! gg no re xD p.s also he is known hacker!

agree

How's that HTML 5 coming along? 2 - 3 years and it will be done?

In the long run we are all dead.

נכתב על ידי Skittzophrenic, 27.01.2015 at 18:52

How's that HTML 5 coming along? 2 - 3 years and it will be done?

Lobby is done. The game is now under rapid development after months of preparations and preliminary work. If all goes well and life doesn't interfere too much, we're hoping to have some kind of version available for testing by summer.

נכתב על ידי Columna Durruti, 28.01.2015 at 00:13

In the long run we are all dead.

John Maynard Keynes. I should have put that in my post!

Suprised when no smartass laochra comment is here.

Someone finally heard my cry!

נכתב על ידי Ivan, 28.01.2015 at 03:04

Lobby is done. The game is now under rapid development after months of preparations and preliminary work. If all goes well and life doesn't interfere too much, we're hoping to have some kind of version available for testing by summer.

Will the lobby look like this one does? Or is it another version?

צטט:

Someone finally heard my cry!

נכתב על ידי ArminyMouse, 27.01.2015 at 05:41

נכתב על ידי klevis, 27.01.2015 at 04:21

Well i deal with it ,just ironfirst seams to have same defense as pd in all the battles i tested

Noob,why you trolling,ik you'r albanian,but you dont need to troll here.
Iron fist is rly hard to beat lol,
I know bcs i steted too:
2 iron fist inf can beat 5 perfect def inf.
5 perfect def inf. cant beat 2 iron fist inf

pd v IF if you dont belive ligth blue pd than look range and empty china cities of militia
2 iron fist inf can beat 5 perfect def inf.<
5 perfect def inf. cant beat 2 iron fist inf< (like its not same as the other 2v5)

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.01.2015 at 08:27

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 08:16

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 27.01.2015 at 07:54

נכתב על ידי Knez, 27.01.2015 at 07:31

נכתב על ידי Mauzer Panteri, 27.01.2015 at 07:22

Lotto and bingo at war...

There is no skill in memorization. Sorry.

There is also no skill in playing bad and winning. Sorry.

So if you win, you are a fucking op pro
If you lose, the other guy was a lucky noob.

I get it.

xd its every one like this lol

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 28.01.2015 at 18:43

Suprised when no smartass laochra comment is here.

I hope that this battle system will get an "update"



i was ds so my helis had 8 attack and this militia has only 3 def

an other try:



the range of luck is about ±50%. In my opinion its to much!