Michelle Carter guilty of texts urging boyfriend's suicide

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40304433

"The case appears to set a legal precedent, as there is no Massachusetts law that criminalises telling a person to commit suicide.

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Back years ago in order to have a relationship you had to actually see somebody - or at a minimum talk on the phone. That is no longer required. People fall in love via the internet and via text. People bully via text and the internet. You can encourage someone to die via text, and you can commit a crime via text."

Wow... omiting the fact that this could be considered gender violence, it's still quite a shitty thing to do to your fucking partner... I can't understand such a situation

Yea but this is more than the person simply telling their partner to go kill themselves in an argument or something. She repeatedly sent him texts. Shes a monster in my opinion and deserves what she got. The dude was only 18 and she clearly knew about his fragile mental state.

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 16.06.2017 at 19:48

Yea but this is more than the person simply telling their partner to go kill themselves in an argument or something. She repeatedly sent him texts. Shes a monster in my opinion and deserves what she got. The dude was only 18 and she clearly knew about his fragile mental state.

נכתב על ידי RaulPB, 16.06.2017 at 18:34

Wow... omiting the fact that this could be considered gender violence, it's still quite a shitty thing to do to your fucking partner... I can't understand such a situation

I don't know how can this be gender violence, because she didn't tell him "go kill yourself because you are a man." But facts are facts, she told him to kill himself, which he did, he even told him that "your parents will get over your death." I can't understand how he bought her bullshit and actually did it and in the same time conceal it from his family, he even had a little sister, who needed him . But I've been thinking at another scenario too, knowing his depressive state and suicidals inclinations, maybe she said that she actually needs to "INCOURAGE" him in doing it, did you see what she said, something like "do it, after it you will be happy in heaven," and what's more halucinating is that this noob didn't even google or something, where do suiciders go, because its not heaven, I think in some places you are even denied burial in a graveyard in this case...wretched boy.

While i don't think she should be at fault legally, she has done something very fucked up and i'm not upset that she was found guilty.

נכתב על ידי Guest, 16.06.2017 at 23:16

נכתב על ידי RaulPB, 16.06.2017 at 18:34

Wow... omiting the fact that this could be considered gender violence, it's still quite a shitty thing to do to your fucking partner... I can't understand such a situation

I don't know how can this be gender violence, because she didn't tell him "go kill yourself because you are a man." But facts are facts, she told him to kill himself, which he did, he even told him that "your parents will get over your death." I can't understand how he bought her bullshit and actually did it and in the same time conceal it from his family, he even had a little sister, who needed him . But I've been thinking at another scenario too, knowing his depressive state and suicidals inclinations, maybe she said that she actually needs to "INCOURAGE" him in doing it, did you see what she said, something like "do it, after it you will be happy in heaven," and what's more halucinating is that this noob didn't even google or something, where do suiciders go, because its not heaven, I think in some places you are even denied burial in a graveyard in this case...wretched boy.

You do understand Bullying is a crime? She "bullied" him and by bullied I mean she psychologically abused him by telling him to kill himself and demeaning him as someone who was unimportant and fragile, she psycologically abused him to commit suicide, hence why she was convicted.
If you tell me, she should spent a good ammount of her time in prison, and fucking forced to deal with bullied victims.

נכתב על ידי Guest, 16.06.2017 at 23:16

I don't know how can this be gender violence, because she didn't tell him "go kill yourself because you are a man." But facts are facts, she told him to kill himself, which he did, he even told him that "your parents will get over your death." I can't understand how he bought her bullshit and actually did it and in the same time conceal it from his family, he even had a little sister, who needed him . But I've been thinking at another scenario too, knowing his depressive state and suicidals inclinations, maybe she said that she actually needs to "INCOURAGE" him in doing it, did you see what she said, something like "do it, after it you will be happy in heaven," and what's more halucinating is that this noob didn't even google or something, where do suiciders go, because its not heaven, I think in some places you are even denied burial in a graveyard in this case...wretched boy.

I'm pretty sure any man would be accused of gender violence if this issue was the other way round, being the woman the victim. But that just a speculation of mine

This guy might have been inmensely in love, might have been fragile, might have had a tough adolescence or childhood, might be depressive, etc. The circumstances really don't matter to me all that much, the fact that this girl has psychologically played with his own PARTNER is fucked up enough to be put in jail. Also, no guy in such a state would ever consider googling anything, he was so screwed he commited siucide, no matter where he had to go.

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 16.06.2017 at 20:32

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 16.06.2017 at 19:48

Yea but this is more than the person simply telling their partner to go kill themselves in an argument or something. She repeatedly sent him texts. Shes a monster in my opinion and deserves what she got. The dude was only 18 and she clearly knew about his fragile mental state.

agree

A dangerous and stupid attention whore in jail and a retarded "look at me i have everything going for me but i am depressed" fucktard less.

נכתב על ידי Khal.eesi, 17.06.2017 at 08:59

A dangerous and stupid attention whore in jail and a retarded "look at me i have everything going for me but i am depressed" fucktard less.

From someone who has displayed a compassionate nature in the past i am surprised at you. This is similar logic that russian dude who invented the blue whale game applied. He groomed young teenage girls into killing themselves and tried to defend himself by claiming he was cleansing the trash from society. Whatever happened to not judging a man before walking a mile in his shoes? You're right about her but you don't know what his situation was and why he was depressed. Shame khal, shame.

נכתב על ידי Khal.eesi, 17.06.2017 at 08:59

look at me i have everything going for me but i am depressed

I really do hate you alittle right now. nice achievment.

Or maybe Khal is trying to make flame wars great again

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 17.06.2017 at 11:14

From someone who has displayed a compassionate nature in the past i am surprised at you. This is similar logic that russian dude who invented the blue whale game applied. He groomed young teenage girls into killing themselves and tried to defend himself by claiming he was cleansing the trash from society. Whatever happened to not judging a man before walking a mile in his shoes? You're right about her but you don't know what his situation was and why he was depressed. Shame khal, shame.

I am compassionate, to those who actually deserve my compassion. I have adopted a panda from wwf and i am a member of 3 wildlife/ enviromental organizations. I help for a living. But if you think i am gonna shed a tear for a privileged probably wealthy white kid from USA that decided to take his own life because "first world problems" you are mistaken. I dont give a fuck, thats the cowards way out anyway.

Living is a choice, if you dont want to live gtfo.

P.S. What blue whale did was wrong and i hope he rots in jail. That being said he is not mistaken at all, he did "clean" society from mentally disabled people who probably would be dangerous and a burden to society, anyway.

You know my views, we are 8 billion people we could use a culling in the likes of 5-6 billion. We are killing the planet and all the species around us and for what? Criminals, abusers and opressors of any kind, corrupted officials and businessmen, extremists, people who turn a blind eye to crime and extremism ( hello peacefull majority) mentally disabled people or people in poverty who decide to drop 5 babies because why not, these people could all be removed today and wake up tommorow in an amazing, peacefull, joyfull and sustainable world.

נכתב על ידי Rock Lee, 17.06.2017 at 11:18

Or maybe Khal is trying to make flame wars great again

No its just my honest opinion. I am a black pill giver, its logical that people will hate me. Truth hurts, always have, always will.

I believe the above mentioned case is a bit different from that blue whale game, eventho metodically it follows the same goal. That dude was motivated by some culling/cleansing he thought he was doing, but this girl was this fella's gf! Feelings of love were supposed to exist between them. Or maybe she loved him so much that she put herself into his skin and didn't see other option?

But I believe everybody deserves a second chance, maybe even this wretched fella had a chance to get over it, maybe breaking the bond with and stop talking for ever with this sadistic wench? Did you see that after he killed himself, she had told his mother that she wouldnt have seen herself with other guy than her son for all her life? Are you kidding me? And you did everything you could to prevent this. You actually instructed "the love of your life" to kill himself!

And khal, you simply can't "cull" the population, eliminate the perpetrators of crime and keep the good "honest" people. Who is the honest and who are the criminals? There are only blurred lines and grey shades today...

נכתב על ידי Guest, 17.06.2017 at 15:17

And khal, you simply can't "cull" the population, eliminate the perpetrators of crime and keep the good "honest" people. Who is the honest and who are the criminals? There are only blurred lines and grey shades today...

Yea there was a guy who tried that. What was his name again? I believe he also loved animals. Godwins law is real.

Khal going full fascist, I like it

נכתב על ידי Khal.eesi, 17.06.2017 at 14:41

No its just my honest opinion. I am a black pill giver, its logical that people will hate me. Truth hurts, always have, always will.

Truth is uncertain thing and taking extreme actions for it not only causes pain and brings you back but blinds people and distracts them from caring what is good and right for very long time - and yes it's called war.

Why do you consider confused and shaken people mentally as disabled? Is it right to exterminate me too? and what is that bullshit of "first world problem'"? The worker in Beijing who has to break his back in construction sites 16 hours a day 7 days a week for the riches of the commie party just for a low standart of living and noone to protect his basic rights is still a "spoiled summerchild" considering the North Korean rural boy who has to feed from his grandpa flash and his great granpa grave in order to survive while his motherfucker southern cousin makes enough money in a week to buy a ranch in California only cus his coward granpa fleed south instead of serving his nation. Should the Chinese man then live of life of nothing but full sastifation and never look outside or inside to see what is delayinng him and makes him hurt other people? and why does it come from a priviliged guy from welfare state who was lucky enough to acquire education and has to work less than an hour for a full meal? why don't you expect from yourself to live in sheer blindless?

I am sure that you like me were told many times not to thing about things too much. But confusion and pain is most of the times necessary process in your attempt to adapt to learn and understand. many times it goes wrong - some people get crazy. some people become bitter paranoid or less gentle but if we are being honest humans lose proportions in everything they do and for me that is the healing process. Don't get me wrong. many times people do what they do for stupid motives - the way you chose to speak of the other people indicate you tempted to be selfish while writing that post but I also saw you burning bridges and getting yourself in trouble because you cared to fix people wrong ways of thiniking and defend others from lies and propoganda which means you do care more than just sastifing yourself and keep yourself comfortable. what I am trying to say that they did was very human and familiar (to be honest their life would be more meaningless if they did'nt look inside and arrive to this situation). those "priviliged first worlders" had the means to live selfish comfort life of sastifation and instead they looked for a better way and they should have gotten help instead of being encouraged to kill themselves.

Also sorry for delay. I was busy and right now i'm not concentrated enough to write full comment.

נכתב על ידי Rock Lee, 19.06.2017 at 12:35

נכתב על ידי Khal.eesi, 17.06.2017 at 14:41

No its just my honest opinion. I am a black pill giver, its logical that people will hate me. Truth hurts, always have, always will.

Truth is uncertain thing and taking extreme actions for it not only causes pain and brings you back but blinds people and distracts them from caring what is good and right for very long time - and yes it's called war.

Why do you consider confused and shaken people mentally as disabled? Is it right to exterminate me too? and what is that bullshit of "first world problem'"? The worker in Beijing who has to break his back in construction sites 16 hours a day 7 days a week for the riches of the commie party just for a low standart of living and noone to protect his basic rights is still a "spoiled summerchild" considering the North Korean rural boy who has to feed from his grandpa flash and his great granpa grave in order to survive while his motherfucker southern cousin makes enough money in a week to buy a ranch in California only cus his coward granpa fleed south instead of serving his nation. Should the Chinese man then live of life of nothing but full sastifation and never look outside or inside to see what is delayinng him and makes him hurt other people? and why does it come from a priviliged guy from welfare state who was lucky enough to acquire education and has to work less than an hour for a full meal? why don't you expect from yourself to live in sheer blindless?

I am sure that you like me were told many times not to thing about things too much. But confusion and pain is most of the times necessary process in your attempt to adapt to learn and understand. many times it goes wrong - some people get crazy. some people become bitter paranoid or less gentle but if we are being honest humans lose proportions in everything they do and for me that is the healing process. Don't get me wrong. many times people do what they do for stupid motives - the way you chose to speak of the other people indicate you tempted to be selfish while writing that post but I also saw you burning bridges and getting yourself in trouble because you cared to fix people wrong ways of thiniking and defend others from lies and propoganda which means you do care more than just sastifing yourself and keep yourself comfortable. what I am trying to say that they did was very human and familiar (to be honest their life would be more meaningless if they did'nt look inside and arrive to this situation). those "priviliged first worlders" had the means to live selfish comfort life of sastifation and instead they looked for a better way and they should have gotten help instead of being encouraged to kill themselves.

Also sorry for delay. I was busy and right now i'm not concentrated enough to write full comment.

I agree, dude shouldve get help, at least tell his parents his horrible situation and btw, why ppl say in article that that chick was his gf, l0000l, I never seen a gf which exhorts you to suicde, ok, maybe indirectly, but not text you: Do it brooo, you can do it, yuhuuu!