Disabling General Option

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 13:36

You don't win by having a general, you win because you know how to play the game, that what they meant, like all other game it's not pay to win but some premium player have some slight advantage against another opponent. like I says i am fine if they have a no general option, but the questions is would it be access to non-premium player as well or only premium for that setting.

I don't know to be honest, I would suggest enabling this feature in advanced settings, therefore only available to premium players, as the whole original point is to make the competitive play a more level playing field, this would prevent non-premium players abusing this feature in standard games. You are correct, the general does give a slight advantage (heavy advantage if you ask most non-premium players), which is why in competitive play there should be the option to remove generals or at least make the general available to rent as you can with all the other upgrades when using proto-coins.

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:21

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05

I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety(slightly misleading) when a general gives players an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You don't win games because of generla it's because of how you play this game

Dude, disagree, general gives you a lot of extra advantage for winning, without talking about special weapons...

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:31

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:21

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05

I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety(slightly misleading) when a general gives players an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You don't win games because of generla it's because of how you play this game

Try telling that to the dozens of non-premium players I have spoken to that are reluctant to play duels and clan wars because of the perceived advantage premium players have with a general. I am not calling for the removal of the general altogether, just to disable it when all players in a particular game agree to. You are telling me that in Ukraine vs Turkey the general doesn't provide a major advantage? I still don't think you understand or have read the topic properly.

In every game it provides a lot of advantages.

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 11:00

נכתב על ידי Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.

But there is an difference between no upgrades and no general . I already suggest this before too. It would be fun to see some games with no general bonuses. Its a big difference

It´s the same i think, if upgrades are disabled general is useless.

נכתב על ידי hormigaatomica, 19.04.2015 at 14:00

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:31

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:21

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05

I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety(slightly misleading) when a general gives players an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You don't win games because of generla it's because of how you play this game

Try telling that to the dozens of non-premium players I have spoken to that are reluctant to play duels and clan wars because of the perceived advantage premium players have with a general. I am not calling for the removal of the general altogether, just to disable it when all players in a particular game agree to. You are telling me that in Ukraine vs Turkey the general doesn't provide a major advantage? I still don't think you understand or have read the topic properly.

In every game it provides a lot of advantages.

Agreed, the example of turkey and ukraine is just that, an example. That being a stand out situation where a general has a clear and obvious advantage and probably the most played competitive game, either within 3v3 or duels.

נכתב על ידי hormigaatomica, 19.04.2015 at 14:02

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 11:00

נכתב על ידי Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.

But there is an difference between no upgrades and no general . I already suggest this before too. It would be fun to see some games with no general bonuses. Its a big difference

It´s the same i think, if upgrades are disabled general is useless.

It is not the same .... because if only general disabled you can still play with faster infantry/cheaper infantry/ 15 capacity on transport etc etc.. how do you guys not understand what he means..

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:02

נכתב על ידי hormigaatomica, 19.04.2015 at 14:00

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:31

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:21

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05

I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety(slightly misleading) when a general gives players an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You don't win games because of generla it's because of how you play this game

Try telling that to the dozens of non-premium players I have spoken to that are reluctant to play duels and clan wars because of the perceived advantage premium players have with a general. I am not calling for the removal of the general altogether, just to disable it when all players in a particular game agree to. You are telling me that in Ukraine vs Turkey the general doesn't provide a major advantage? I still don't think you understand or have read the topic properly.

In every game it provides a lot of advantages.

Agreed, the example of turkey and ukraine is just that, an example. That being a stand out situation where a general has a clear and obvious advantage and probably the most played competitive game, either within 3v3 or duels.

It´s not needed to check only that example, in every game general provides you a lot of advantages against non premium players.

נכתב על ידי hormigaatomica, 19.04.2015 at 14:02

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 11:00

נכתב על ידי Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.

But there is an difference between no upgrades and no general . I already suggest this before too. It would be fun to see some games with no general bonuses. Its a big difference

It´s the same i think, if upgrades are disabled general is useless.

Yes the general is almost useless in that situation, but why would a rank 10 want to play at rank 1 upgrade level? Or why should they have to in order to make the game fairer?

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 14:05

נכתב על ידי hormigaatomica, 19.04.2015 at 14:02

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 11:00

נכתב על ידי Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.

But there is an difference between no upgrades and no general . I already suggest this before too. It would be fun to see some games with no general bonuses. Its a big difference

It´s the same i think, if upgrades are disabled general is useless.

It is not the same .... because if only general disabled you can still play with faster infantry/cheaper infantry/ 15 capacity on transport etc etc.. how do you guys not understand what he means..

I´m talking about upgrades disabled, that includes general upgrades too.

What you are talking about is different, those are the upgrades that you buy when you are getting more sp´s and you are higher rank.

That´s the example of a game between a rank 6 and a rank 9, obviously rank 9 should have more upgrades.

He´s talking about "general issue".

נכתב על ידי hormigaatomica, 19.04.2015 at 14:12

He´s talking about "general issue".

And unless I am severely mistaken, so is waffel.

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:14

נכתב על ידי hormigaatomica, 19.04.2015 at 14:12

He´s talking about "general issue".

And unless I am severely mistaken, so is waffel.

ffs... these people

You just cant discuss normal in AW.

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:23

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

please clarify what u meant, did u mean YES ? your response was to vague

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 15:39

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:23

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

please clarify what u meant, did u mean YES ? your response was to vague

He said, if this option will come it should be an option in advanced settings, where you click 2 initial countries and capture country etc etc..

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 16:24

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 15:39

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:23

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

please clarify what u meant, did u mean YES ? your response was to vague

He said, if this option will come it should be an option in advanced settings, where you click 2 initial countries and capture country etc etc..

That a bad idea since 1/3 of my upgrade is mostly general i suggest generals become free again for everyone.

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 16:51

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 16:24

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 15:39

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:23

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

please clarify what u meant, did u mean YES ? your response was to vague

He said, if this option will come it should be an option in advanced settings, where you click 2 initial countries and capture country etc etc..

That a bad idea since 1/3 of my upgrade is mostly general i suggest generals become free again for everyone.

devs gotta make money though and a lot of people buy premium just for the general

נכתב על ידי Exo-K, 19.04.2015 at 17:01

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 16:51

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 16:24

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 15:39

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:23

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

please clarify what u meant, did u mean YES ? your response was to vague

He said, if this option will come it should be an option in advanced settings, where you click 2 initial countries and capture country etc etc..

That a bad idea since 1/3 of my upgrade is mostly general i suggest generals become free again for everyone.

devs gotta make money though and a lot of people buy premium just for the general

It's contradict the pay to win features, premium help create games and start new maps. This is a disadvantage for us high rank since if you can disable the general feature half of my upgrade will be useless.If you can suggest disabling general why not make general free so we can have a more variety of tactics for everyone. Oh wait your rank 8, you don't have all the upgrade, stop crying you bbig baby go farm in rp or some shit to get your sp.

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 17:05

נכתב על ידי Exo-K, 19.04.2015 at 17:01

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 16:51

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 16:24

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 15:39

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:23

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

please clarify what u meant, did u mean YES ? your response was to vague

He said, if this option will come it should be an option in advanced settings, where you click 2 initial countries and capture country etc etc..

That a bad idea since 1/3 of my upgrade is mostly general i suggest generals become free again for everyone.

devs gotta make money though and a lot of people buy premium just for the general

It's contradict the pay to win features, premium help create games and start new maps. This is a disadvantage for us high rank since if you can disable the general feature half of my upgrade will be useless.If you can suggest disabling general why not make general free so we can have a more variety of tactics for everyone. Oh wait your rank 8, you don't have all the upgrade, stop crying you bbig baby go farm in rp or some shit to get your sp.

in giving a general to everyone you still have to find another way then for devs to make money I didn't say giving a gen to everyone is bad for the community just think of things from the developers point of view why would they want to take money out of their own back pocket?

נכתב על ידי Exo-K, 19.04.2015 at 17:14

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 17:05

נכתב על ידי Exo-K, 19.04.2015 at 17:01

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 16:51

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 16:24

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 15:39

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:23

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

please clarify what u meant, did u mean YES ? your response was to vague

He said, if this option will come it should be an option in advanced settings, where you click 2 initial countries and capture country etc etc..

That a bad idea since 1/3 of my upgrade is mostly general i suggest generals become free again for everyone.

devs gotta make money though and a lot of people buy premium just for the general

It's contradict the pay to win features, premium help create games and start new maps. This is a disadvantage for us high rank since if you can disable the general feature half of my upgrade will be useless.If you can suggest disabling general why not make general free so we can have a more variety of tactics for everyone. Oh wait your rank 8, you don't have all the upgrade, stop crying you bbig baby go farm in rp or some shit to get your sp.

in giving a general to everyone you still have to find another way then for devs to make money I didn't say giving a gen to everyone is bad for the community just think of things from the developers point of view why would they want to take money out of their own back pocket?

Exactly then why you support taking away general? is it because u don't have enough upgrade?

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 18:09

נכתב על ידי Exo-K, 19.04.2015 at 17:14

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 17:05

נכתב על ידי Exo-K, 19.04.2015 at 17:01

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 16:51

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 19.04.2015 at 16:24

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 15:39

נכתב על ידי The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 14:23

נכתב על ידי Htin, 19.04.2015 at 14:20

Another question will this setting also disable scenario general as well, like map like hell ggg give general as event on turn 1?does event general get canceled as well?

With it being an option then I guess it would be an option in advanced settings, regardless of the game played.

please clarify what u meant, did u mean YES ? your response was to vague

He said, if this option will come it should be an option in advanced settings, where you click 2 initial countries and capture country etc etc..

That a bad idea since 1/3 of my upgrade is mostly general i suggest generals become free again for everyone.

devs gotta make money though and a lot of people buy premium just for the general

It's contradict the pay to win features, premium help create games and start new maps. This is a disadvantage for us high rank since if you can disable the general feature half of my upgrade will be useless.If you can suggest disabling general why not make general free so we can have a more variety of tactics for everyone. Oh wait your rank 8, you don't have all the upgrade, stop crying you bbig baby go farm in rp or some shit to get your sp.

in giving a general to everyone you still have to find another way then for devs to make money I didn't say giving a gen to everyone is bad for the community just think of things from the developers point of view why would they want to take money out of their own back pocket?

Exactly then why you support taking away general? is it because u don't have enough upgrade?

didn't say I was for or against, your trying to make this all about my rank when i'm trying to explain it from a developers point of view

Agreed with exo, no support for gen4all, I hardly think having an option to remove the general from games at a players choice will effect revenue.

Nah general for all should come back... it will devide the fairness in the games. In this point I have to agree on mirai nikki

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 21.04.2015 at 16:49

Nah general for all should come back... it will devide the fairness in the games. In this point I have to agree on mirai nikki

yeah a game with everyone haven't a general is more interesting since, you can have a more variety way of defeating your enemy and it helps preserved my upgrades