Segregation in Tournaments

Official Atwar tournaments, or any tournament that has atwar trophies should not be allowed to segregate players based on arbitrary reasons such as race,age or not being a "casual player"

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=40460&topicsearch=&page=1

RatWar and Taz Youlkepoye should be ashamed for discriminating players that don't play casual. Plenty of people that i know just don't have the time to invest months worth of time in casual games, that this two individuals set up an arbitrary requirement to participate in their tournament is disgusting.

If that tournament takes place, it shound't give any trophies as is rigged and lacks sportsmanship.

Agree, there is literally no difference between a casual and a normal player. We both play the same game so why are we trying to divide ourselves.

A house divided against itself, cannot stand. I believe this game cannot endure, permanently, half casual and half free.

Ive brought the same thing up in his thread, all his explenations are vague, kinda seems like he just wants to get a free trophy by playing against noobs.

Then again im not suprised, its taz, the same guy that once scammed people in duels not too long ago.

Let us rise to the call of freedom loving blood that is in us and send our answer to the tyranny that clanks its chains upon the Casuals. In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny... and I say ... segregation today ... segregation tomorrow ... segregation forever.

#endapartheidonatwar

I think Taz and RatWar meant well. They just thought it would be nice to do something FOR Casual Players, not really AGAINST quick game players. So I personally don't think they should be "ashamed" - on the contrary, they put a lot of efforts in promoting the game, with good intention.

This being said, my preference would be, like yours, that there should not be any "segregation" (especially when trophies are at stake).

I used to think the same, but this is just a pointless flame post. It's like asking to include high ranks in a tournament meant for low ranks. Zero sense coming out of you.

They are just trying to let casual players enter the tournament part of the game, and not make them run away from it when they get beaten by the guys who have much more experience in the game. There will be another tournament next month in which everybody can participate, anyway.

So in short, delet this. Thanks in advance.

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 26.02.2019 at 16:08

#endapartheidonatwar

Looks like youve been reading on the african flamewar thread D

Bruh y'all really like to make flames out of nowhere...

נכתב על ידי Guest, 26.02.2019 at 16:51

I used to think the same, but this is just a pointless flame post. It's like asking to include high ranks in a tournament meant for low ranks. Zero sense coming out of you.

They are just trying to let casual players enter the tournament part of the game, and not make them run away from it when they get beaten by the guys who have much more experience in the game. There will be another tournament next month in which everybody can participate, anyway.

So in short, delet this. Thanks in advance.

At no point does it say is rank restricted - as 4nic said before, this is an attempt to farm noobs and get an easy trophy for themselves.

If you care so much about experience why would they allow a team with a bloody rank 15 and a rank 13 to play vs a rank 6 and a rank 5. Take a look at the list, half of the people there are above rank 10.

I am not even a competitive player, why can't i not play if this is an official tournament?

I'v noticed that for some reason over the past few months - you'v taken upon yourself to be an unwated spokeman of the scenario and now casual community. Congrats on taking the contrarian mantle from Clovis, I hope that when u become a mod you'll treat plebs like me with kindness and won't use your power to take the game hostage just to prove your point and feed your messiash complex.

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 26.02.2019 at 17:36

You missed the point of my post. I'm sorry for you, I understand not all people are able to get some things. I hope you can re-read it and try to understand it once more.

נכתב על ידי Tundy, 26.02.2019 at 17:36

I'v noticed that for some reason over the past few months - you'v taken upon yourself to be an unwated spokeman of the scenario and now casual community. Congrats on taking the contrarian mantle from Clovis, I hope that when u become a mod you'll treat plebs like me with kindness and won't use your power to take the game hostage just to prove your point and feed your messiash complex.

Only for that part you get my upvote D

In all seriousness tho, this thread is a bit melodramatic

But there is a clear genetic difference between a casual and quick mode players.

I wish I could have joined

נכתב על ידי NegTheEskimo, 26.02.2019 at 22:26

But there is a clear genetic difference between a casual and quick mode players.

Yes according to a book "iq and time", it is proven that quick mode players have an iq 20 points above that of casual players. and no I didn't make this up right now. i need to feel superior because I have nothing in my life, please don't disprove me

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 26.02.2019 at 17:07

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 26.02.2019 at 16:08

#endapartheidonatwar

Looks like youve been reading on the african flamewar thread D

I deleted the thread so youd all lose your upvotes and walls of autistic text, yw.

Hello everyone,

Well again, some of the players do not understand anything they read and make comments that are off topic.
But everyone is free to think what he wants ....

As mentioned above, with RatWar we are trying to engage the casual gamer community to enter the competitive field.

That's why I will try to open a monthly tournament in casual mode, especially for them or for everyone.
Then we will see if they follow up on an opening or not, everything will depend on the number of participants.

For most casual players, they do not come in the global forum, so they are not aware of opening tournaments, that's why this one is only for them.
Otherwise stay between you and share nothing.
I sent a message in private to warn of this tournament to casual players, I had to send between 100 and 150 message, and it's not over.
After, I can not do anything if the high ranks raising from this community do not wish to participate. I will not force them.
I try things, for a community of players that is abandoned.
Why be blamed for this?

Especially since I have said it again and again, that this tournament will also be for everyone next month, so why come to pester on 1 tournament you can not participate?
It's simply amazing to think like that.
If you really want to play in a casual tournament open to all, there is the Risk tournament that is proposed since August, but it can be too complicated for people who complain.

I hope now, that all this was finally a misunderstanding and that everything will be back to normal.

נכתב על ידי 4nic, 27.02.2019 at 03:02

נכתב על ידי Waffel, 26.02.2019 at 17:07

נכתב על ידי Permamuted, 26.02.2019 at 16:08

#endapartheidonatwar

Looks like youve been reading on the african flamewar thread D

I deleted the thread so youd all lose your upvotes and walls of autistic text, yw.

My name is not Njab. Upvotes have no value for me.

נכתב על ידי Kame Sennin Taz, 27.02.2019 at 06:45

נכתב על ידי Kame Sennin Taz, 27.02.2019 at 06:45

Hello everyone,

Well again, some of the players do not understand anything they read and make comments that are off topic.
But everyone is free to think what he wants ....

As mentioned above, with RatWar we are trying to engage the casual gamer community to enter the competitive field.

That's why I will try to open a monthly tournament in casual mode, especially for them or for everyone.
Then we will see if they follow up on an opening or not, everything will depend on the number of participants.

For most casual players, they do not come in the global forum, so they are not aware of opening tournaments, that's why this one is only for them.
Otherwise stay between you and share nothing.
I sent a message in private to warn of this tournament to casual players, I had to send between 100 and 150 message, and it's not over.
After, I can not do anything if the high ranks raising from this community do not wish to participate. I will not force them.
I try things, for a community of players that is abandoned.
Why be blamed for this?

Especially since I have said it again and again, that this tournament will also be for everyone next month, so why come to pester on 1 tournament you can not participate?
It's simply amazing to think like that.
If you really want to play in a casual tournament open to all, there is the Risk tournament that is proposed since August, but it can be too complicated for people who complain.

I hope now, that all this was finally a
misunderstanding and that everything will be back to normal.

Why are we treating casual players like they are special. Regardless of your intentions, this come across as intentionally trying to divide this community more.

Filthy casuals.

I'll be blunt; as someone who plays Casual and Quick games regularly, I can assure you that there are different unspoken rules, standards, and levels of efficiency in the casual sphere of players than the quick ones. I believe Taz's competition was made specifically for this group of people, like MurDerer, Ratwar, etc.

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.02.2019 at 14:07

I'll be blunt; as someone who plays Casual and Quick games regularly, I can assure you that there are different unspoken rules, standards, and levels of efficiency in the casual sphere of players than the quick ones. I believe Taz's competition was made specifically for this group of people, like MurDerer, Ratwar, etc.

Unspoken rules? You mean don't build turn 1? Wow how different that we need an entire classification of atwar player for that.

נכתב על ידי Witch-Doctor, 28.02.2019 at 14:09

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.02.2019 at 14:07

I'll be blunt; as someone who plays Casual and Quick games regularly, I can assure you that there are different unspoken rules, standards, and levels of efficiency in the casual sphere of players than the quick ones. I believe Taz's competition was made specifically for this group of people, like MurDerer, Ratwar, etc.

Unspoken rules? You mean don't build turn 1? Wow how different that we need an entire classification of atwar player for that.

What a simplification you've made. Causal players generally are not as competitive or skilled at the game either, why would you want to invade their tournament made for them when you haven't even played with them or share anything in common with them? For your magic points? I understand the theory of high ranks farming these guys, but to say that they can't have their own tournament amongst themselves is just weird man. Would you allow scenario players in your EU+ 3v3 games? No, your community kicks them out of games. The shoe is on the other foot now.

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.02.2019 at 14:18

What a simplification you've made. Causal players generally are not as competitive or skilled at the game either, why would you want to invade their tournament made for them when you haven't even played with them or share anything in common with them? For your magic points? I understand the theory of high ranks farming these guys, but to say that they can't have their own tournament amongst themselves is just weird man. Would you allow scenario players in your EU+ 3v3 games? No, your community kicks them out of games. The shoe is on the other foot now.

What a load of horseshit. Im labelled a competitive player and yet ive posted several guides and posts regarding gameplay and atwar mechanics. Last time i checked we were all playing the same game called atwar.

Stupid separatists. They all want their own little cliques. Give them the unleashed treatment I say!

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.02.2019 at 14:18

נכתב על ידי Witch-Doctor, 28.02.2019 at 14:09

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.02.2019 at 14:07

I'll be blunt; as someone who plays Casual and Quick games regularly, I can assure you that there are different unspoken rules, standards, and levels of efficiency in the casual sphere of players than the quick ones. I believe Taz's competition was made specifically for this group of people, like MurDerer, Ratwar, etc.

Unspoken rules? You mean don't build turn 1? Wow how different that we need an entire classification of atwar player for that.

What a simplification you've made. Causal players generally are not as competitive or skilled at the game either, why would you want to invade their tournament made for them when you haven't even played with them or share anything in common with them? For your magic points? I understand the theory of high ranks farming these guys, but to say that they can't have their own tournament amongst themselves is just weird man. Would you allow scenario players in your EU+ 3v3 games? No, your community kicks them out of games. The shoe is on the other foot now.

That's why there's a r16 and a r11 in that tournament. Totally not farming noobs.

נכתב על ידי Witch-Doctor, 28.02.2019 at 14:57

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.02.2019 at 14:18

נכתב על ידי Witch-Doctor, 28.02.2019 at 14:09

נכתב על ידי Guest, 28.02.2019 at 14:07

I'll be blunt; as someone who plays Casual and Quick games regularly, I can assure you that there are different unspoken rules, standards, and levels of efficiency in the casual sphere of players than the quick ones. I believe Taz's competition was made specifically for this group of people, like MurDerer, Ratwar, etc.

Unspoken rules? You mean don't build turn 1? Wow how different that we need an entire classification of atwar player for that.

What a simplification you've made. Causal players generally are not as competitive or skilled at the game either, why would you want to invade their tournament made for them when you haven't even played with them or share anything in common with them? For your magic points? I understand the theory of high ranks farming these guys, but to say that they can't have their own tournament amongst themselves is just weird man. Would you allow scenario players in your EU+ 3v3 games? No, your community kicks them out of games. The shoe is on the other foot now.

That's why there's a r16 and a r11 in that tournament. Totally not farming noobs.

Damn WD, you drink your Monster yet today? I literally mentioned that in the post you quoted. Damn Boomer

I blame Aqcuiesce because why not.

There should not be any segregation in the community if rewards are offered, and if you cant get people to join without sending 150 private messages, then that shows people are not invested and really aint
a seperate community in the first place. Its called "casual" for a reason. Not everyone deserves a trophy in this world for just being apart of a game mode most people do not prefer, and everyone should be allowed to participate. That would be like me hosting a tournement only for people who have a H in there name and expecting a community sanctioned trophy to make it lol.

Casual is a good equalizer.

Anyways if they are investing the time to run the tournament as individuals then they can run it how they wish. If it is an 'official' tournament endorsed by AtWar, then it should be open to all.