Sky Menace Ukraine opening

I was just wondering what other peoples opening country choices were for SM Ukraine since I'm new to it myself.

Well a common counter for it is Turkey.

Are you asking what's a good country to counter it, or where's a good place to start with it?
A good place to start with it would be Turkey IMO. I see so many SM players start from there. There was one guy though who took Russia: Central and we had around a 3 month war before I was like "Screw this, I don't want to spend an hour fighting you." The problem there was, we both had 50K, so I couldn't starve him of money. He could just keep throwing units at me, but so could I.

Anyways.
In that war, no one really was winning or losing, and I started from Germany in that game, but also I did have 50K to start.
I'd suggest a place with a lot of recruits to start, because if they don't have the recruits then they can't use it to spam you with bombers.

He is asking what countries you take in the first few turns when playing as sm ukraine

derp.

Oh then in that case, I'd say Russia Central, Belarus, and Turkey. Maybe Poland too.

נכתב על ידי Gking19, 15.05.2012 at 19:36

Oh then in that case, I'd say Russia Central, Belarus, and Turkey. Maybe Poland too.

Nah I'd say Russia Central, Russia Northwest, Turkey(or Greece), Hungry, Serbia, and Belarus

Well knowing me, I try not to just use all my money to expand then have nothing left for defense, so that's why I didn't suggest as many countries. Go for the good ones, then defend them.

Oh LOL, sorry.
Well Idk, but personally I would take poland belarus romania russiacentral walled.
Ask Lynchski hes pro at SM

I would go straight for Russia blog since its far away form the players

The strength to SM Ukraine is leveraging its early reinforcements and bucket loads of cash to sieze the few rich areas in the East. Once the money makers are taken then you're unstoppable as you can outproduce anything in the West.

A few pointers:
Don't bother walling anything where you're not likely to get attacked, waste of reinforcements.
The two key cities to take are St. Petersburg and Moscow. Everything else is optional but the 8 pop and extremely high income make these two invaluable.
Get full central ASAP. I usually do this full turn to get maximum income from the strongest country in the East right away, but this is up to you.
Use infantry to attack, if you've got Infantry range you can walk your Kharkiv infantry into Moscow.
Don't be tempted to go for Turkey, it's income is awful given the maintainance of militia. It's a massive money sink and you should avoid it unless you really need it or want to stop someone else getting it.
Grab Finland, you can go for full Finland first turn if you've got Infantry range (highly recommended).

For the love of god I cannot understand why people go for things like Poland and Belarus, in the long run these are not the countries you need. You need money, not reinforcements.

Sincerely, the creator of SM Ukraine. NO PROBLEM GUYS.

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 17.05.2012 at 03:37

The strength to SM Ukraine is leveraging its early reinforcements and bucket loads of cash to sieze the few rich areas in the East. Once the money makers are taken then you're unstoppable as you can outproduce anything in the West.

A few pointers:
Don't bother walling anything where you're not likely to get attacked, waste of reinforcements.
The two key cities to take are St. Petersburg and Moscow. Everything else is optional but the 8 pop and extremely high income make these two invaluable.
Get full central ASAP. I usually do this full turn to get maximum income from the strongest country in the East right away, but this is up to you.
Use infantry to attack, if you've got Infantry range you can walk your Kharkiv infantry into Moscow.
Don't be tempted to go for Turkey, it's income is awful given the maintainance of militia. It's a massive money sink and you should avoid it unless you really need it or want to stop someone else getting it.
Grab Finland, you can go for full Finland first turn if you've got Infantry range (highly recommended).

For the love of god I cannot understand why people go for things like Poland and Belarus, in the long run these are not the countries you need. You need money, not reinforcements.

Sincerely, the creator of SM Ukraine. NO PROBLEM GUYS.

Thnx for your help, this has helped me a lot

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 17.05.2012 at 03:37

Sincerely, the creator of SM Ukraine. NO PROBLEM GUYS.

classic line right there

Turkey, france, spain, germany, UK, Russia Central, Volga, Northwest, Sweden, Poland.

I can take Greece in my 1st turn expansion with SM Ukraine ^_^

נכתב על ידי Guest, 16.05.2012 at 12:15

Ask Lynchski hes pro at SM

And so it has been written.

נכתב על ידי Deray YG, 17.05.2012 at 19:03

I can take Greece in my 1st turn expansion with SM Ukraine ^_^

Wonder who showed you that?? :p I don't think I would recommend this in most situations tho.

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 17.05.2012 at 03:37

Don't be tempted to go for Turkey, it's income is awful given the maintainance of militia. It's a massive money sink and you should avoid it unless you really need it or want to stop someone else getting it.

I strongly disagree Turkey is quite valuable. I don't want to go into details of my strategy tho :p.

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 17.05.2012 at 03:37

Sincerely, the creator of SM Ukraine. NO PROBLEM GUYS.

HWAT

נכתב על ידי Lynchski, 17.05.2012 at 22:53

I strongly disagree Turkey is quite valuable. I don't want to go into details of my strategy tho :p.

You mean My Strategy??? mwhahaha

נכתב על ידי Lynchski, 17.05.2012 at 22:53

I strongly disagree Turkey is quite valuable. I don't want to go into details of my strategy tho :p.

If you have so much money as SM Ukraine that you can use all of Turkeys reinforcements then you're using some kind of hack. Hold Ankara, wall it up to the max and autoproduce militia by all means to stop someone else getting any use out of it and do the same with Athens but you won't be making nearly enough money to utilise the south properly.

Consider that you have both money AND all the reinforcements you'll ever need in the north, why would you just chose reinforcements in the south?

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 31.05.2012 at 04:15

נכתב על ידי Lynchski, 17.05.2012 at 22:53

I strongly disagree Turkey is quite valuable. I don't want to go into details of my strategy tho :p.

If you have so much money as SM Ukraine that you can use all of Turkeys reinforcements then you're using some kind of hack. Hold Ankara, wall it up to the max and autoproduce militia by all means to stop someone else getting any use out of it and do the same with Athens but you won't be making nearly enough money to utilise the south properly.

Consider that you have both money AND all the reinforcements you'll ever need in the north, why would you just chose reinforcements in the south?

Nonono send most of your units to take Russia volga. take Belarus, Serbia,Hungary, bulgaria & Turkey. Dont take Russia Central & Northwest as they will eat up your reinforcments. If you cant get Slovenia, cypros, & bosnia you are guarantued to win! Learn from the number won dueler. You welcome.

נכתב על ידי Sixstars, 31.05.2012 at 07:16

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 31.05.2012 at 04:15

נכתב על ידי Lynchski, 17.05.2012 at 22:53

I strongly disagree Turkey is quite valuable. I don't want to go into details of my strategy tho :p.

If you have so much money as SM Ukraine that you can use all of Turkeys reinforcements then you're using some kind of hack. Hold Ankara, wall it up to the max and autoproduce militia by all means to stop someone else getting any use out of it and do the same with Athens but you won't be making nearly enough money to utilise the south properly.

Consider that you have both money AND all the reinforcements you'll ever need in the north, why would you just chose reinforcements in the south?

Nonono send most of your units to take Russia volga. take Belarus, Serbia,Hungary, bulgaria & Turkey. Dont take Russia Central & Northwest as they will eat up your reinforcments. If you cant get Slovenia, cypros, & bosnia you are guarantued to win! Learn from the number won dueler. You welcome.

Six speaks the truth. I highly recommend.

נכתב על ידי Sixstars, 31.05.2012 at 07:16

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 31.05.2012 at 04:15

נכתב על ידי Lynchski, 17.05.2012 at 22:53

I strongly disagree Turkey is quite valuable. I don't want to go into details of my strategy tho :p.

If you have so much money as SM Ukraine that you can use all of Turkeys reinforcements then you're using some kind of hack. Hold Ankara, wall it up to the max and autoproduce militia by all means to stop someone else getting any use out of it and do the same with Athens but you won't be making nearly enough money to utilise the south properly.

Consider that you have both money AND all the reinforcements you'll ever need in the north, why would you just chose reinforcements in the south?

Nonono send most of your units to take Russia volga. take Belarus, Serbia,Hungary, bulgaria & Turkey. Dont take Russia Central & Northwest as they will eat up your reinforcments. If you cant get Slovenia, cypros, & bosnia you are guarantued to win! Learn from the number won dueler. You welcome.

^ This, true to that, u actually forgot Latvia & Estonia, they are quite valuable too.

I am certain he was trolling.

From my experience taking both Russia Central and Northwest is a must. Everything else is really based on preference/your opponents position.

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 06.06.2012 at 05:22

I am certain he was trolling.

Captain obvious strikes again

נכתב על ידי Barrymore, 17.05.2012 at 03:37

Sincerely, the creator of SM Ukraine. NO PROBLEM GUYS.

Who the hell do you think you are? LilD created SM Ukraine.

צטט:

Who the hell do you think you are? LilD created SM Ukraine.

Oh you are one of the newcomers, well boy listen and learn from Barry Im pretty sure Lild arnt one of the creators of sm. (dont take me wrong, I love him)

I am certain he was trolling.

No, really?

USA atlantic,china southeast,japan,india,karkand,eastren peninsula,pakistan,south africa,israel,nigeria,USA pacific

נכתב על ידי Pointlesfield, 01.08.2012 at 12:05

USA atlantic,china southeast,japan,india,karkand,eastren peninsula,pakistan,south africa,israel,nigeria,USA pacific

How to get all those nations with Ukraine!?