Clan War League [Proposal]

After talking to many players about the lack of structure in the CW system, the idea for an official atWar league is being considered.
The proposal is for X amount of teams to play each other twice with a sports style league system to determine the season winner. Under consideration:

• All games must be 3v3 euro 10k - standard cw settings
• 3 Points for a win - 1 point for a tie
• Will run separate from the present clan war system
• Each clan must play each other clan twice -taking turns to host (host clans always pick first)
• Games to be played in the main lobby

We obviously don't want OP teams farming the league so we are considering that each clan must have at least one player below rank 7 playing, or any one player can only play in 50% of games - feedback would be welcome in terms of any ideas.

Another idea is to have individual prizes for most income, most cities taken highest population casualties etc. during a particular season. Again feedback is welcome here.

Okey i will write here once again (as i wrote this to sun tzu)

I suggested also that some statistics being stored while league is lasting. By statistics i mean: players with most income (on average), then players who capped most players etc. And when season of league ends, Player of the League is being picked from these stats.

OP IDEA !

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

נכתב על ידי Black Swans, 20.06.2016 at 11:27

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

Please re-read the post. especially bullet point number 3.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 20.06.2016 at 11:31

נכתב על ידי Black Swans, 20.06.2016 at 11:27

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

Please re-read the post. especially bullet point number 3.

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

נכתב על ידי Black Swans, 20.06.2016 at 11:42

נכתב על ידי Black Swans, 20.06.2016 at 11:27

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

THAT'S THE SPIRIT! D

נכתב על ידי Black Swans, 20.06.2016 at 11:42

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 20.06.2016 at 11:31

נכתב על ידי Black Swans, 20.06.2016 at 11:27

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

Please re-read the post. especially bullet point number 3.

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

Will run separate from the present clan war system

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 20.06.2016 at 11:49

נכתב על ידי Black Swans, 20.06.2016 at 11:42

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 20.06.2016 at 11:31

נכתב על ידי Black Swans, 20.06.2016 at 11:27

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

Please re-read the post. especially bullet point number 3.

DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING

Will run separate from the present clan war system

He is not very bright, dont mind him.
Also this is interesting idea, could work, will be fun for sure.

I like the idea. Not letting players play or must have a r7 is not very good tho. Just let teams play as they do now.i Brought the league idea to enigma for individual players, worked quite well and brought more activity. The same concept can be done for clans and players.

נכתב על ידי JF., 20.06.2016 at 12:40

I like the idea. Not letting players play or must have a r7 is not very good tho. Just let teams play as they do now.i Brought the league idea to enigma for individual players, worked quite well and brought more activity. The same concept can be done for clans and players.

I would prefer that as it would simplify the idea, however some kind of system to dis-encourage clans playing only OP player and encouraging lower ranks/new players to participate, I believe would benefit the competition and community overall.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 20.06.2016 at 13:12

נכתב על ידי JF., 20.06.2016 at 12:40

I like the idea. Not letting players play or must have a r7 is not very good tho. Just let teams play as they do now.i Brought the league idea to enigma for individual players, worked quite well and brought more activity. The same concept can be done for clans and players.

I would prefer that as it would simplify the idea, however some kind of system to dis-encourage clans playing only OP player and encouraging lower ranks/new players to participate, I believe would benefit the competition and community overall.

If there's this discouraging going on, I would love to see statistics on playing. I've been trying to do that with duel time but it takes too much time and there's not enough data. Is there any sight of having statistics like these come out? I'd be willing to help with it.

נכתב על ידי Dbacks, 20.06.2016 at 13:42

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 20.06.2016 at 13:12

נכתב על ידי JF., 20.06.2016 at 12:40

I like the idea. Not letting players play or must have a r7 is not very good tho. Just let teams play as they do now.i Brought the league idea to enigma for individual players, worked quite well and brought more activity. The same concept can be done for clans and players.

I would prefer that as it would simplify the idea, however some kind of system to dis-encourage clans playing only OP player and encouraging lower ranks/new players to participate, I believe would benefit the competition and community overall.

If there's this discouraging going on, I would love to see statistics on playing. I've been trying to do that with duel time but it takes too much time and there's not enough data. Is there any sight of having statistics like these come out? I'd be willing to help with it.

Anything involving back end development work and automatically recording statistics will probably not be possible in the short term, though there is no harm in asking. I guess some clans are different in how they train and use new players, however with the current proposal I can only see this league format encouraging clans to use their most experienced players, which isn't a bad thing if that is the objective of the league - to only have the best players competing, however it would be unfair on clans who want to train players and give them experience in the competitive scene, although arguably that could be what the CW system is for and this league would be an elite competition, I just hope that wouldn't stop less experienced players participating. (hopefully that makes sense :s)

Well it all may sound nice, but I deeply think our CW system at the moment is fine and doesn't need any additions or complications.

Another idea that has been suggested would be to have a variety of maps that each clan must play each other clan on - as only having 3v3 may be too repetitive to some players.

נכתב על ידי Guest, 20.06.2016 at 15:12

Well it all may sound nice, but I deeply think our CW system at the moment is fine and doesn't need any additions or complications.

Please read bullet point 3 in the OP.

Sounds interesting, but yet it will be hard to pull it through. In order for it to work, you need to host a thread where all the clans willing to play in the next season apply and only then they can enter the league, creating a ladder with all the teams, with no exceptions adding the clans once the league starts. On the other hand if clans with lower ranks apply, some clans like MK wont be able to provide players with lower ranking, again coming to the conclusion they will easily be farmed. Basically you will get the same system we had before this one, except instead of cp we will take in consideration win/lose ration

נכתב על ידי Eagle, 20.06.2016 at 15:18

Sounds interesting, but yet it will be hard to pull it through. In order for it to work, you need to host a thread where all the clans willing to play in the next season apply and only then they can enter the league, creating a ladder with all the teams, with no exceptions adding the clans once the league starts. On the other hand if clans with lower ranks apply, some clans like MK wont be able to provide players with lower ranking, again coming to the conclusion they will easily be farmed. Basically you will get the same system we had before this one, except instead of cp we will take in consideration win/lose ration

Yes good point, once it becomes mathematically impossible or highly unlikely for a clan to win, this may cause said clans to stop competing as they won't see any point in playing. - Maybe some kind of penalty such as not allowing future participation in the forthcoming season may counter this, though again that could have an adverse affect.

We have had nearly the same type of clan war system for over 4 years now, with a winner declared every season.
This is a great idea especially since it sounds like it would be more official in a bracket system.
Sounds also very familiar to the clan war tournament only with a few more additions.

Best idea ever , also that it will run seperately from the current cw system so we can test it and see if it will work out , Sun Tzu you are the best !
With this idea all clans will have to cw eachother 2 times so you wont have like 1 clan with very high elo not cw whole season and win

How about making it sort of group stage and elemination stage aswell? D

נכתב על ידי AlBoZzZ, 20.06.2016 at 21:16

How about making it sort of group stage and elemination stage aswell? D

In sun's way a league would be more just .
Beside it will fill the season with cw's and will encourage ineffective clans (especially the overloaded-with-players of them) to participate the CW activity , because of them enormous amount of games each clan should play during the season.

נכתב על ידי Izetbegovic, 20.06.2016 at 21:30

נכתב על ידי AlBoZzZ, 20.06.2016 at 21:16

Beside it will fill the season with cw's and will encourage -maybe- obligate the participant ineffective clans (especially the overloaded-with-players of them) to be involved in the CW activity , because of the enormous amount of games each clan have to play during the season.

^_^

נכתב על ידי Izetbegovic, 20.06.2016 at 21:33

נכתב על ידי Izetbegovic, 20.06.2016 at 21:30

נכתב על ידי AlBoZzZ, 20.06.2016 at 21:16

Beside it will fill the season with cw's and will encourage -maybe- obligate the participant ineffective clans (especially the overloaded-with-players of them) to be involved in the CW activity , because of the enormous amount of games each clan have to play during the season.

^_^

ok baby <3

I like the idea, I dislike the R7 thingy

I more see it as the "Champions League of Atwar", where only the best of the best of compete, so forcing low/middle ranks to play would be somehow counterproductive. They can play in regular season like they do now

Cheers

After reading the notes, I have concluded:
-- To maintain activity and interest, the league will be invite only - clans showing activity levels of 10+ games a week in the current CW system will be invited to participate.

-- All clans must play each other participating clan on 4 different settings:

• 3v3, Euro+, Extra Cities, 10k x 2 games
• 4v4, Euro+ Extra Cities 5k x 2 games

-- Prizes for consideration:

• 1 Year Subscription for a player in the wining clan
• 6 Months for 2nd
• 3 Months for 3rd
• 30 days for all clans participating

-- All participating clans will be asked to arrange and play at least 4 games per week, ongoing failure to maintain activity can only mean disqualification and each case will be determined individually - understandably life may interfere etc, therefore I also appreciate the need for flexibility.

-- Teams participating will be awarded 3 Points for winning, 1 Point for a Tie, 0 Points For A Loss. The team with the highest amount of points will win.

-- The SP from both the winning and losing teams will be used to calculate league standings in case of equal points level, therefore players are asked to keep track of their individual and total SP count and report this with any wins or losses.

-- The league table should be updated every 72 hours.

-- The possibility for a second league for clans who are not active will be considered should there be enough interest. This will allow for other clans to participate in future seasons- however initially clans will be asked to show activity in the present cw system to be invited.

-- All clans are asked to complete all their games even if there is no possible chance of winning the league and to play to win in every circumstance. Any reports of game fixing or letting others clans win may result in instant disqualification from the entire season, or substantial points reduction. Clans must always be shown to be doing their best to win games,

-- Only players who have registered the account are able to play in the competition, there is to be no account sharing, account ghosting (pretending to be another payer). Players may only play for 1 clan during any 1 season.

-- Players must respect other players territory during turn 1 and not to enter onto opponents land. Any circumstance where this can be proven with screenshots may result in penalties for the accused player and in extreme cases the coalition.

-- The objective of each individual game will be to hold an opponents capital for 2 turns as in the standard settings - Ideas for total annihilation and capture neutral cities will be considered if their is any interest, for future seasons. All games will have rare units disabled.

-- Invited Clans:

• Mortal Kombat
• Illyria
• The Immortals
• evoL
• Epic Clan
• Stalins Martians
• Enigma
• Bite Me
• Nordic Nationalists
• Aristokrats

Hopefully I haven't missed anything if I have let me know and if there is anything you think is blatantly wrong with the above, let me know before i make it final. Cheers.

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 22.06.2016 at 06:07

About awards. I think winning coalition should have 1 lifetime subscription to be given to one of its members.

נכתב על ידי Guest, 22.06.2016 at 06:25

About awards. I think winning coalition should have 1 lifetime subscription to be given to one of its members.

That is the plan

נכתב על ידי Sun Tsu, 22.06.2016 at 06:07

-- The SP from both the winning and losing teams will be used to calculate league standings in case of equal points level, therefore players are asked to keep track of their individual and total SP count and report this with any wins or losses.

Ie, DO NOT leave the games, surrender !!

נכתב על ידי Kraigg, 21.06.2016 at 03:27

I like the idea, I dislike the R7 thingy

I more see it as the "Champions League of Atwar", where only the best of the best of compete, so forcing low/middle ranks to play would be somehow counterproductive. They can play in regular season like they do now

Cheers

I agree with this. The regular season will be the perfect training ground now for low ranks. The higher stakes league should be for a clans best teams of players. You don't see football teams benching their best players in the league so why would clans. The rewards are great and will encourage players to give their best and also allowing us to get premium to clanmembers who cant afford it. It will most importantly encourage players to join clans and compete.

Another possibility for amoks todo list would be to add a league game option to the dropdown menu when hosting a game. The invited clans would appear on a list and once the game starts it would be announced in global that a league game is starting, thus drawing more attention.

I'm looking forward to the high stakes games, will be fun. Would be cool to see this running this season.