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02.01.2014 - 21:22
If you can first round wallfnck, wallfnck. The tactical advantage you gain likely outweighs the present game sanction you will suffer.

After being invaded on the first round by an experienced player [EDITED BY Columna Durruti] (PLAYER NAME) [END EDIT] and finding out that Invasions/Wallfncking first round (hereafter: 1nvasions etc.) are legal but frowned upon,
I've decided to discuss the practical (but not political or post-game) applications to 1nvasions for any particular game. The *after-game* consequences may range from trivial to banning by certain hosts: 1nvader 3mptor.

1. In an open map, if someone you don't know picks a country next to yours, their intent is to attack. They might *hope* for an alliance, or to make new friends, but the conclusion you can reasonably deduce is that their intent is to attack. Likewise, if you select a country next to someone, your intent is transparent, whatever your aspirations may be.

2. You may suffer in-game sanction in later turns from players who are moral absolutists; you only need fear the consequences of your preemptive 1nvasion if you survive your current challenge.

3. In almost any case where you might 1nvade an opponent, the opponent will have the capacity to do the same.

4. Your unit expense for 1nvasion are far outweighed by the opportunity cost you will inflict on the opponent who we agreed was going to attack you anyway/you were going to attack in any case. If both or neither 1nvade, the net gain is likely neutral. If you DON'T 1nvade, and your opponent does, you will suffer.

I therefore inevitably conclude: If you can 1nvade, do.

Those interested in the legal discussion can reference:
http://atwar-game.com/forum/board.php?board_id=4
https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=9129

If someone wants to discuss the non-legal (Political, social, ethical) implications and justifications of first-round invasions, this is an open invitation to reply to this post with the location of that discussion. I find 1nvasions to be despicable and counter-to-playing spirit and wish they were illegal.
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02.01.2014 - 21:31
1nvasions are so despised by some players (community-minded individuals that go through the effort of crafting custom scenarios) that 1nvaders may be banned, or the map even removed. So, please, don't preempt the enemy if that's expressly forbidden!
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03.01.2014 - 01:25
Invading a country is NOT forbidden. Even Wallfucking is NOT forbidden.

Players write their own history; some will be considered great (and ethical!) players, others will be considered SP bitches!
This is the AW community: some are good players (in all meanings), others are SP oriented SOBs.
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24.02.2014 - 10:42
AlexMeza
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Sorry, I couldn't read it all..
Are you having a bad time with people wallfucking on you?
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03.03.2014 - 15:51
 Htin
You can WF them. Do it but not in some map like (Tik-Tok Ultimate WWII).
Some place not to WF is duel, team game. That all i know. For Free For All(FFA) i recommend you WF your neighbor can't trust them.
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03.03.2014 - 23:24
No don't WF your neighbor first turn in any game it is unethical...
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We are not the same - I am a... divided constellation?


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