What u expect from pavle he got caught for using bugs now hes using grey area tactics like huark wall , its not classic rewall but its shady stuff.
Funny thing is when huark was doing this to him he always cried and moan and some other ppl too , so my advise is do huarkwalls vs him from now on too cus he gave u green light
For me it's still a grey area, not a rewall, but it's something. While this doesn't particularly sit well in my stomach, I also know that AW is spaghetti code and there's nothing I can do to stop it. In addition, I played the next turn and left, so if there was, hypothetically, any question into the cw, we lost fair and square by that logic. I'm going to chalk this up to "gg it is what it is if you're gonna do it just not with me please and thanks"
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I would say that this is NOT A REWALL.
You can tell from the ss that Pavle tried to do the Huarck wall which I think is perfectly legal and a smart use of autowall mechanics, however, his units merged so his bigwall failed.
What happened instead, mechanically, was shown in my video.
As you can see, I am not rewalling. what is happening is actually what I would say serbwalling on your own capital. People often don't consider this and think you can only serbwall on other cities but no, you can serbwall on your own cities as well. Now, obviously Pavle did not do this on purpose as seen from the screenshot. So, I would say that this was completely unintentional and not done on purpose because you can see that Pavle tried to make a bigwall around his cap.
My final say on this issue is that it was an unintentional serbwall on your own cap (mixed with autowall mechanics), which was meant to be a Hurack wall. So, I would say that this was a complete accident and that Pavle is Innocent. Now, obviously I would say this is not legal and if I were in Prestige's position I would offer a tie but that is their issue not mine xdddd.
First thing I did was of course, to accuse of rewall (for the sake of context, this was how the wall originally looked https://prnt.sc/PdGTYFOx3ejq ) However, Pavle said this was a Huarck wall. To be honest, I had never heard of a Huarck wall before. So I was confused. This is the video he showed about the Huarck wall
But I was convinced that this was a rewall, there was no other way in my opinion. So I discussed with Pavle post cw. this was his answer https://prnt.sc/4GEeEZ_PCRjh (and, by the way, after this he muted me) So I messaged BeSerok (his tm8 in the cw) to tell him something about the Pavle thing, which to be honest I can't remember, but it wasn't aggresive towards BeSerok or Pavle. So, the answer I got? That he didn't know what had happend, and he apologized if Pavle did something he shouldn't have. After showing him all the proof I had, he agreed with Pavle, it was a Huarckwall.
Now I'm double confused. I couldn't talk with Panda, because he logged off instantly after the cw, so I had no one to discuss this issue. So I decided on something. I could test it out, and talk about this with Temp, since he was the only other comp player on at that moment.
So with all the proof, he agreed on something: He did not think it was a rewall on purpouse, but it was an unintentional rewalled.
I also asked Khau on Discord, this was his answer https://prnt.sc/W-deooxR4lzR
Plus it was even more confusing that in the HuarckWall video the result was not even close to what Pavle got https://prnt.sc/35H8HZeVpo1D, But then we figured probably his units merged.
But I was still confused, because I had never heard of a Huarckwall, and I also wanted to give Pavle the benefit of the doubt, although he could not defend himself because he had me muted... so Temp Khau and I decided to do something: Let's test this! Temp recorded the entire session, which you can see here on this youtube video
So, basically if you don't wanna watch the entire video, it took us some attempts to get the result pavle got, but we did, although it was not as perfect as the pavle one. (If you are confused why Temp did something different that the one shown in the Huarck video, it's because we had to recreate the effect of Pavle units merging) However, Pavle made a perfect 3 unit wall, not like anything in the video which is close to not covering Paris.
So now we ended with more questions than answers, Khau still insisted that it was a rewall, Temp said it was a sort of self-serbwall combined with an autowall (which I don't agree with the term, by the way) but even then, I believe Pavle tried it the next turn (this time i placed a wf) https://prnt.sc/2RZOrPR8XcjJ and this was the result next turn https://prnt.sc/YLHZLPpeSGHO
So, we had finished the testing. My opinion? I don't have one. At first it was clear for me that it was a Rewall, but later it was clear it was not, because you can see that his units actually didn't move to place 3 more units.
Now I REALLY want Pavle to defend himself, because it looks like i'm accusing him of something, but i'm actually more confused than anything, but let's say all of what Pavle said is true, and that all of this is a big missunderstanding. Should this be legal? because the way to prevent it is to place a unit next to the wall, which is, in fact, the same way to prevent a rewall. This feels in a sort of... grey area. So now, please answer the poll above. Imo it should be illegal, but I've been playing atwar for over 5 years and i'm a r11, with more than 2.5k duels played, and I've never seen this happen or even hear of this.